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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AaronLoeb" data-source="post: 344215" data-attributes="member: 4382">This hits on something I was talking to some friends about at Gen Con, and something I hope to develop further on the Tree of Life site (and perhaps in further publications, Green Ronin willing... though after I delivered 3 times more book than they asked me to, it may be a while before they trust me with a pub again... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />). I love this kind of thing -- having good or neutral clerics who represent ideas that are typically shown in fantasy to be "evil."The disease example was one of the ones we were discussing (actually, it was plague). The problem with the "one alignment shift"  rule for clerics is that it makes it impossible to do something that was actually fairly common in real-life: have a good-hearted priest who lives to appease the evil, nasty god and protect his people from its wrath. So, you can't have the CE goddess of plague, famine and general evilness, and have her LG clergy who go from town to town teaching people the proper sacrifices to make, the proper prayers to say, etc. to turn the eye of the evil god they represent away from the village. In real life, this sort of thing happened. Being an attendant at an altar of a scary, nasty god did not mean you were, yourself, scary and nasty. So, I hope through the Heretic feat and some other stuff, we can start making some good priests of evil gods.Fantastic! That's exactly what I'd hoped. I hope you'll come by the Green Ronin boards and tell us all how it works out when you do start incorporating stuff. I've found the boards to be an excellent spot for idea-swapping.Terrific. You've hit upon one of my favorite PrCs (though the hierophant and the hawk are up there too). I think I particularly love the Reborn (and the whole church of Mormekar) after-the-fact because James Ryman's art in that section is just so darn good. The first time I saw his work I was very happy; then Hal told me I was just looking at concept sketches and the pieces were going to get even better. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Ryman's little touch of having the obediant brother punching one of the ghouls swarming him -- almost as an afterthought -- gets me every time.So, are you going to take an existing character who's been evil and make him reborn, or start out a character at higher levels who already has the PrC? AJL</blockquote>

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