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<blockquote data-quote="Sepulchre" data-source="post: 9363887" data-attributes="member: 7033220"><p>The interaction is a little strange, but nothing in the dual-wielding rules requires that you make two weapon attacks with your main hand. And that’s hardly broken.</p><p></p><p>All level 5+ warlocks count as having Extra Attack (by virtue of Extra Blast), so they can all make two off-hand attacks if they take the attack action and make a weapon attack (even just one) while wielding a dual-wielding weapon. </p><p></p><p>Thirsting Blade doesn’t directly interact with this. It just lets you attack twice with your Pact Weapon when you take the attack action.</p><p></p><p>If your Pact Weapon is a double weapon, you can attack with it four times by using the Attack action and the Two-weapon Fighting bonus action.</p><p></p><p>Note that the melee Eldritch Blasts are spell attacks, so if you only make Eldritch Blasts with your action, you cannot use Two-weapon Fighting.</p><p></p><p>An exception is the Dread Knight with the Eldritch Maneuvers feature. While using that feature to make a combat maneuver, Eldritch Scythe and Whip count as melee weapons. That means that the conditions for Two-weapon Fighting are met, and the Warlock can use it with a dual-wielding weapon (or any one-handed weapon with the Dual Wielding Expert feat).</p><p></p><p>One last note: all Warlocks can substitute Eldritch Scythe for a single melee weapon attack, so a Warlocks with Thirsting Blade can make one Pact Weapon attack and one Eldritch Scythe attack with the Attack action, qualifying them for Two-weapon Fighting that turn.</p><p></p><p>I think the rules work together very nicely when they are put side by side, and a Blast n’ Slash Warlock is very thematic, especially for Dread Knight.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sepulchre, post: 9363887, member: 7033220"] The interaction is a little strange, but nothing in the dual-wielding rules requires that you make two weapon attacks with your main hand. And that’s hardly broken. All level 5+ warlocks count as having Extra Attack (by virtue of Extra Blast), so they can all make two off-hand attacks if they take the attack action and make a weapon attack (even just one) while wielding a dual-wielding weapon. Thirsting Blade doesn’t directly interact with this. It just lets you attack twice with your Pact Weapon when you take the attack action. If your Pact Weapon is a double weapon, you can attack with it four times by using the Attack action and the Two-weapon Fighting bonus action. Note that the melee Eldritch Blasts are spell attacks, so if you only make Eldritch Blasts with your action, you cannot use Two-weapon Fighting. An exception is the Dread Knight with the Eldritch Maneuvers feature. While using that feature to make a combat maneuver, Eldritch Scythe and Whip count as melee weapons. That means that the conditions for Two-weapon Fighting are met, and the Warlock can use it with a dual-wielding weapon (or any one-handed weapon with the Dual Wielding Expert feat). One last note: all Warlocks can substitute Eldritch Scythe for a single melee weapon attack, so a Warlocks with Thirsting Blade can make one Pact Weapon attack and one Eldritch Scythe attack with the Attack action, qualifying them for Two-weapon Fighting that turn. I think the rules work together very nicely when they are put side by side, and a Blast n’ Slash Warlock is very thematic, especially for Dread Knight. [/QUOTE]
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