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<blockquote data-quote="lichmaster" data-source="post: 9363965" data-attributes="member: 6683330"><p>No, but you can make 2 off-hand attacks only if you have the Extra Attack feature and you take the attack action.</p><p></p><p>The wording is a bit unclear to me tbh, as I'm not sure the intention is to grant extra attack regardless of using Eldritch blasts. For how I read it, it counts as Extra attack when using Eldritch blast, but this feature alone wouldn't allow them to make additional melee attacks as Extra Attack would. Whether this would allow to make two off-hand attacks after a single melee attack because this feature counts as Extra attack is unclear to me</p><p></p><p>Eldritch Scythe specifically says that substitute the melee attack with a spell attack when you take the attack action. There's no requirement for two weapon fighting about using weapon attacks or spell attacks, but only about using one handed non heavy melee weapons. The only question is whether the ephemeral blade counts as such for the primary weapon. IMO what Eldritch Scythe actually does is to change the damage type and use a different ability modifier for the attack, so one should be able to use off hand weapons when using Eldritch Scythe, but probably some clarifications from the designers would be useful</p><p></p><p>The feature says that Eldritch Scythe and Whip count as melee weapons specifically for the purpose of maneuvers learned through the same feature. So with this feature only, one does not qualify as using whip as a melee weapon for the purpose of then using two weapon fighting, IMO. Even if one used the Whip as part of a maneuver, it's unclear if it would still satisfy the requirements of it being a non heavy one handed melee weapon and thus allow for the use of two weapon fighting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lichmaster, post: 9363965, member: 6683330"] No, but you can make 2 off-hand attacks only if you have the Extra Attack feature and you take the attack action. The wording is a bit unclear to me tbh, as I'm not sure the intention is to grant extra attack regardless of using Eldritch blasts. For how I read it, it counts as Extra attack when using Eldritch blast, but this feature alone wouldn't allow them to make additional melee attacks as Extra Attack would. Whether this would allow to make two off-hand attacks after a single melee attack because this feature counts as Extra attack is unclear to me Eldritch Scythe specifically says that substitute the melee attack with a spell attack when you take the attack action. There's no requirement for two weapon fighting about using weapon attacks or spell attacks, but only about using one handed non heavy melee weapons. The only question is whether the ephemeral blade counts as such for the primary weapon. IMO what Eldritch Scythe actually does is to change the damage type and use a different ability modifier for the attack, so one should be able to use off hand weapons when using Eldritch Scythe, but probably some clarifications from the designers would be useful The feature says that Eldritch Scythe and Whip count as melee weapons specifically for the purpose of maneuvers learned through the same feature. So with this feature only, one does not qualify as using whip as a melee weapon for the purpose of then using two weapon fighting, IMO. Even if one used the Whip as part of a maneuver, it's unclear if it would still satisfy the requirements of it being a non heavy one handed melee weapon and thus allow for the use of two weapon fighting. [/QUOTE]
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