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<blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 6675227" data-attributes="member: 37579">That's an unfair example. In the one, the character gives an example outside the game (Errol Flynn) as well as another descriptor (swashbuckler). There's also no description of subclass. In the warlock part of the example, you're referring to something right out of the book and not really adding anything.&nbsp;Which is the whole damn point. If someone shows up at the table and just pulls a subclass randomly and says &quot;my character is a warlock who made a deal with a timeless alien being&quot; they don't need to add anything more. People can fill up the character with outside knowledge from the PHB and Lovecraft. But if someone says &quot;I'm a human fighter&quot; or &quot;I'm a dragonborn battle master&quot; we have nothing to work with. It takes just as much effort to say &quot;my dragonborn fighter moves like Errol Flynn as he buckles his swash&quot; as it does to say &quot;my warlock was dying and made a pact with a psychopomp in exchange for a longer life&quot; or &quot;my grandfather sold his soul a beining known as Aseoth and I have inherited his debt&quot;. The inherent flavour of the warlock doesn't mean you can't go your own route, saying a Fey patron was really a deceptive arch devil, the Fiend was an elemental primordial, or the Great Old One was a ilithid Elder Brain. You're not bound by the provided flavour any more than you are restricted by the example names or suggested personality traits.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jester David, post: 6675227, member: 37579"] That's an unfair example. In the one, the character gives an example outside the game (Errol Flynn) as well as another descriptor (swashbuckler). There's also no description of subclass. In the warlock part of the example, you're referring to something right out of the book and not really adding anything. Which is the whole damn point. If someone shows up at the table and just pulls a subclass randomly and says "my character is a warlock who made a deal with a timeless alien being" they don't [I]need[/I] to add anything more. People [I]can[/I] fill up the character with outside knowledge from the PHB and Lovecraft. But if someone says "I'm a human fighter" or "I'm a dragonborn battle master" we have [I]nothing[/I] to work with. It takes just as much effort to say "my dragonborn fighter moves like Errol Flynn as he buckles his swash" as it does to say "my warlock was dying and made a pact with a psychopomp in exchange for a longer life" or "my grandfather sold his soul a beining known as Aseoth and I have inherited his debt". The inherent flavour of the warlock doesn't mean you can't go your own route, saying a Fey patron was really a deceptive arch devil, the Fiend was an elemental primordial, or the Great Old One was a ilithid Elder Brain. You're not bound by the provided flavour any more than you are restricted by the example names or suggested personality traits. [/QUOTE]

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