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<blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 6683235" data-attributes="member: 20323">Tomb Raider! Woot!Yeah it's a matter of degree. While you're right about the Berserker, I think most of these are a good deal more thematically differentiated than you're making them out to be...Bards: Lore Bard is the Celtic bard who keeps the clan's stories. Valor Bard is a Nordic skald who *makes* stories. That implies a whole host of differences in how they approach adventuring and relate to others!Clerics: The difference between a War and Knowledge cleric is the difference between a Thor and an Oghma or an Ares and an Apollo - there's a huuuge difference there. The design of the sub-classes is straightforward but back up that thematic difference. More than the fighter sub-classes does (sure, we can debate how much more).Paladins: The Tenets of Devotion and Tenets of Vengeance are night and day! There's not way a player approaching one of these sub-classes would be confused or ambiguous about what the sub-class represents. The capstone abilities really emphasize that difference, and its there in subtle ways in other abilities too. Lack of clarity in design begets lacks of clarity in naming. This is a good example.Makes sense!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Quickleaf, post: 6683235, member: 20323"] Tomb Raider! Woot! Yeah it's a matter of degree. While you're right about the Berserker, I think most of these are a good deal more thematically differentiated than you're making them out to be... Bards: Lore Bard is the Celtic bard who keeps the clan's stories. Valor Bard is a Nordic skald who *makes* stories. That implies a whole host of differences in how they approach adventuring and relate to others! Clerics: The difference between a War and Knowledge cleric is the difference between a Thor and an Oghma or an Ares and an Apollo - there's a huuuge difference there. The design of the sub-classes is straightforward but back up that thematic difference. More than the fighter sub-classes does (sure, we can debate how much more). Paladins: The Tenets of Devotion and Tenets of Vengeance are night and day! There's not way a player approaching one of these sub-classes would be confused or ambiguous about what the sub-class represents. The capstone abilities really emphasize that difference, and its there in subtle ways in other abilities too. Lack of clarity in design begets lacks of clarity in naming. This is a good example. Makes sense! [/QUOTE]

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