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<blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9803962" data-attributes="member: 6795602"><p>Int and con is a lot better than Dex and con for a bladesinger. Like that’s really your recommendation???</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don’t agree. If there was a magic initiate background that could take strength without dex or con I’d have happily chosen it. </p><p></p><p>But since that doesn’t exist I take a background that gives strength.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But that ignores 2 critical aspects - action economy and buffs really matters. </p><p></p><p>1. Giving up actions during combat to cast false life isn’t good solution. I’m confident saying any EK actually attacking is vastly superior to the Bkadesinger that uses combat actions for false life. </p><p></p><p>2. Extending the adventuring day causes other offensive problems for the bladesinger as he has limited slots to keep his strong buff spells going.</p><p></p><p>Essentially to do as you suggest you end up tanking your dpr for more survivability. That’s just not a good tradeoff. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I said, I structured the adventuring day to be in the bladesingers favor. Things only get worse for him if we extend it. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>To justify using them you need to make assumptions that hurt him in the comparison even worse. </p><p></p><p>Like if your proposal is the bladesinger stops attacking and casts false life a bunch, we can say he’s 50% more survivable (or whatever the number comes out to) but the EK does 400% more damage or whatever the number comes out to.</p><p></p><p>There’s just no way to maintain the originally calculated damage I gave with any assumptions that allow the extra slots to be used for false life. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure. I think it’s fair to assume he has warcaster.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrogReaver, post: 9803962, member: 6795602"] Int and con is a lot better than Dex and con for a bladesinger. Like that’s really your recommendation??? I don’t agree. If there was a magic initiate background that could take strength without dex or con I’d have happily chosen it. But since that doesn’t exist I take a background that gives strength. But that ignores 2 critical aspects - action economy and buffs really matters. 1. Giving up actions during combat to cast false life isn’t good solution. I’m confident saying any EK actually attacking is vastly superior to the Bkadesinger that uses combat actions for false life. 2. Extending the adventuring day causes other offensive problems for the bladesinger as he has limited slots to keep his strong buff spells going. Essentially to do as you suggest you end up tanking your dpr for more survivability. That’s just not a good tradeoff. As I said, I structured the adventuring day to be in the bladesingers favor. Things only get worse for him if we extend it. To justify using them you need to make assumptions that hurt him in the comparison even worse. Like if your proposal is the bladesinger stops attacking and casts false life a bunch, we can say he’s 50% more survivable (or whatever the number comes out to) but the EK does 400% more damage or whatever the number comes out to. There’s just no way to maintain the originally calculated damage I gave with any assumptions that allow the extra slots to be used for false life. Sure. I think it’s fair to assume he has warcaster. [/QUOTE]
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