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<blockquote data-quote="Bendris Noulg" data-source="post: 1438446" data-attributes="member: 6398"><p>Well, I don't have gray hair, but my younger brother does and my youngest brother has a receading hair line, so I'm just going to consider myself lucky and post with the rest of the old farts...</p><p> </p><p>It's a question of application, I think.</p><p> </p><p>For instance, do I believe 3E is more CRPG-like than RPG-like? Yes, but it's done that way for several reasons.</p><p> </p><p>1. Provide new gamers with clear mechanics.</p><p> </p><p>2. Provide a safety net against power-GMs.</p><p> </p><p>Ideally, experienced gamers and fair GMs can alter the game as they see fit, and with little trouble once they understand the basics of the system.</p><p> </p><p>I don't think Feats and Prestige Classes are really a problem, although they can be if the GM doesn't give the item a <em>good</em> read over and some serious consideration before approving. My own "table rule" is that Feats, Spells, Magic Items, equipment, etc., from <em>any</em> book (and must be OGC, so no WotC splat material) must be reviewed by me first and approved for the campaign, while players are invited to bring these items to me when desired. The only exception are Prestige Classes, which I rarely approve from any source other than myself, and which I introduce in-game as they become relevant rather than having them listed out (i.e., no character-mapping into one).</p><p> </p><p>As for min/max... Well, my group follows a philosophy quite similar to the quote from Psion in my sig, although to date he's probably explained it the best, which is why I quoted him (just this morning, in fact!). But, again, this is a matter of application. For some people, 3E/d20 looses its appeal after it goes "over the top", while for others, going "over the top" is why they play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bendris Noulg, post: 1438446, member: 6398"] Well, I don't have gray hair, but my younger brother does and my youngest brother has a receading hair line, so I'm just going to consider myself lucky and post with the rest of the old farts... It's a question of application, I think. For instance, do I believe 3E is more CRPG-like than RPG-like? Yes, but it's done that way for several reasons. 1. Provide new gamers with clear mechanics. 2. Provide a safety net against power-GMs. Ideally, experienced gamers and fair GMs can alter the game as they see fit, and with little trouble once they understand the basics of the system. I don't think Feats and Prestige Classes are really a problem, although they can be if the GM doesn't give the item a [i]good[/i] read over and some serious consideration before approving. My own "table rule" is that Feats, Spells, Magic Items, equipment, etc., from [i]any[/i] book (and must be OGC, so no WotC splat material) must be reviewed by me first and approved for the campaign, while players are invited to bring these items to me when desired. The only exception are Prestige Classes, which I rarely approve from any source other than myself, and which I introduce in-game as they become relevant rather than having them listed out (i.e., no character-mapping into one). As for min/max... Well, my group follows a philosophy quite similar to the quote from Psion in my sig, although to date he's probably explained it the best, which is why I quoted him (just this morning, in fact!). But, again, this is a matter of application. For some people, 3E/d20 looses its appeal after it goes "over the top", while for others, going "over the top" is why they play. [/QUOTE]
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