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<blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 7999248" data-attributes="member: 40166"><p>WRT bladesingers, I don't think that it would automatically spread that quick. If there's a vast number of bladesingers and a very cosmopolitan society, then there would probably be non-elvish bladesingers. If there was a small society of bladesingers, magic itself being rare, some mutual distrust between elves and humans, bladesinging may not be something that non-elves think about doing, and even if they do the door just isn't open to them. Even if they did learn it somehow, elves would be chasing them for knowing it, or at least dropping a few levels in friendliness if they realize this human has stolen elvish secrets.</p><p></p><p>Medieval times were not known for sharing customs quickly. Go was around since at least 701, and the first known mention in the West was in 1694, when it got seven pages in a book about oriental games, and it wasn't until 1880 that Oskar Korschelt brought detailed descriptions to the west. In a medieval or even renaissance setting, Western characters shouldn't be Go players, and if the game is set in Japan, the DM or setting books should make it clear that's something that needs a good justification, not just dumping some points into Game (Go).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Runes are letters. The same people who Tacitus recorded as runecasting probably expected that the Romans were pulling from a bag of Scrabble tiles for their own divination. And if there was dwarven magic in the game that felt like runic magic, it would be less of a thing for me.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're saying that it's stupid to say that PCs didn't have 5th spells cast upon them before starting at 1st level? My character wants a Browning Automatic Rifle, and if we happen to be playing in Golarion, people have made the trip from WWI Earth to Golarion before; does that mean my Pathfinder GM can't say no? Or even not tactically valuable things, like I want to play a Kender or Tinker Gnome--spelljammers are a part of FR lore, after all.</p><p></p><p>If a player wants to justify a half-orc bladesinger and comes to me with this carefully built story about how the character was an elven bladesinger and died and explains how the PC got a Reincarnate spell and how all this builds into the character, maybe I'll let them play a elven bladesinger who got reincarnated as a half-orc. On the other hand, if a player thinks Thogg the Gross would be more powerful as a bladesinger, and tosses out reincarnation as an excuse, no.</p><p></p><p>At the very least, restrictions like that indicate a bias in the world. Maybe you can come up with a reason for a non-elvish bladesinger, but make it better than "elves don't have optimal stats for what I want to do, and it doesn't say only elves".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="prosfilaes, post: 7999248, member: 40166"] WRT bladesingers, I don't think that it would automatically spread that quick. If there's a vast number of bladesingers and a very cosmopolitan society, then there would probably be non-elvish bladesingers. If there was a small society of bladesingers, magic itself being rare, some mutual distrust between elves and humans, bladesinging may not be something that non-elves think about doing, and even if they do the door just isn't open to them. Even if they did learn it somehow, elves would be chasing them for knowing it, or at least dropping a few levels in friendliness if they realize this human has stolen elvish secrets. Medieval times were not known for sharing customs quickly. Go was around since at least 701, and the first known mention in the West was in 1694, when it got seven pages in a book about oriental games, and it wasn't until 1880 that Oskar Korschelt brought detailed descriptions to the west. In a medieval or even renaissance setting, Western characters shouldn't be Go players, and if the game is set in Japan, the DM or setting books should make it clear that's something that needs a good justification, not just dumping some points into Game (Go). Runes are letters. The same people who Tacitus recorded as runecasting probably expected that the Romans were pulling from a bag of Scrabble tiles for their own divination. And if there was dwarven magic in the game that felt like runic magic, it would be less of a thing for me. You're saying that it's stupid to say that PCs didn't have 5th spells cast upon them before starting at 1st level? My character wants a Browning Automatic Rifle, and if we happen to be playing in Golarion, people have made the trip from WWI Earth to Golarion before; does that mean my Pathfinder GM can't say no? Or even not tactically valuable things, like I want to play a Kender or Tinker Gnome--spelljammers are a part of FR lore, after all. If a player wants to justify a half-orc bladesinger and comes to me with this carefully built story about how the character was an elven bladesinger and died and explains how the PC got a Reincarnate spell and how all this builds into the character, maybe I'll let them play a elven bladesinger who got reincarnated as a half-orc. On the other hand, if a player thinks Thogg the Gross would be more powerful as a bladesinger, and tosses out reincarnation as an excuse, no. At the very least, restrictions like that indicate a bias in the world. Maybe you can come up with a reason for a non-elvish bladesinger, but make it better than "elves don't have optimal stats for what I want to do, and it doesn't say only elves". [/QUOTE]
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