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<blockquote data-quote="satori01" data-source="post: 2274595" data-attributes="member: 7859"><p>Err wrong to what you said. 20% of resources is never defined in the DMG, it could be what you said, or it could be one player takes the dirt nap while everyone else is realtively unscathed. An encounter that is +2 cr over the parties Average level is considered twice as difficult as an encounter with a CR value equal to party level.</p><p> </p><p>Monster CRs to me are a decent indicator of the power level of a monster. While the CR of a monster is the prime determinate of an encounters EL, I think a lot of people overlook such important factors as the terrain, surprise, how many resources the party has already expended and other mitagating factors.</p><p> </p><p>A party that has to go through 4 enounters where the CRs are Average Party level -1 with no rest and no recovery of spells and then fight the BBEG who has terrain advantage and is +2 CR over Average Party level and I can easily see a final exp bonus for that encounter of + 50% for circumstance and terrain advantage.</p><p> </p><p>As for the person describing his parties encounter with the Earth Elemental, I agree a dm should be aware when he is throwing a monster that a party does not stack up well against, and I would say your dm proabaly was aware and did it on purpose. Any game where players have the option to customize their characters in a specialized way is going to yield "equal" monsters that they cut through like butter, and monsters that cut through them as butter.</p><p> </p><p>I wouldnt penalize a player of a cleric(or paladin), specializing in turning, by reducing the exp on an encounter due to a really nice turn roll that killed the undead. Nor would I increase the exp of an encounter that featuring a monster that stacks quite nicely against a specialized party, unless terrain or other considerations neccistated it.</p><p> </p><p>A sneak attack/ critical hit specialized party is going to suck against high DR/ not crit creatures. However that party against a whole host of creatures with low ACs and realtively low damage like Purple Worms or Gray Renders are going to rock the casbah .</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="satori01, post: 2274595, member: 7859"] Err wrong to what you said. 20% of resources is never defined in the DMG, it could be what you said, or it could be one player takes the dirt nap while everyone else is realtively unscathed. An encounter that is +2 cr over the parties Average level is considered twice as difficult as an encounter with a CR value equal to party level. Monster CRs to me are a decent indicator of the power level of a monster. While the CR of a monster is the prime determinate of an encounters EL, I think a lot of people overlook such important factors as the terrain, surprise, how many resources the party has already expended and other mitagating factors. A party that has to go through 4 enounters where the CRs are Average Party level -1 with no rest and no recovery of spells and then fight the BBEG who has terrain advantage and is +2 CR over Average Party level and I can easily see a final exp bonus for that encounter of + 50% for circumstance and terrain advantage. As for the person describing his parties encounter with the Earth Elemental, I agree a dm should be aware when he is throwing a monster that a party does not stack up well against, and I would say your dm proabaly was aware and did it on purpose. Any game where players have the option to customize their characters in a specialized way is going to yield "equal" monsters that they cut through like butter, and monsters that cut through them as butter. I wouldnt penalize a player of a cleric(or paladin), specializing in turning, by reducing the exp on an encounter due to a really nice turn roll that killed the undead. Nor would I increase the exp of an encounter that featuring a monster that stacks quite nicely against a specialized party, unless terrain or other considerations neccistated it. A sneak attack/ critical hit specialized party is going to suck against high DR/ not crit creatures. However that party against a whole host of creatures with low ACs and realtively low damage like Purple Worms or Gray Renders are going to rock the casbah . [/QUOTE]
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