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<blockquote data-quote="amerigoV" data-source="post: 5374018">What!?!?!?! Its all about winning. Thats why they keep score (XP/Level/Loot).Ignoring what its being compared to, Wizards is on a dangerous treadmill. They keep rehashing the same stuff over an over (&quot;Look Orc 5.0! Next week, see Gnome 5.0!&quot;). 3.x and 4 are both very solid systems. Not a thing wrong with them other than the eventual bloat. They need to start thinking about what kool stuff they can make in the future because just rollin' a d20 and adding different numbers is not going to get my $I have no problem spending the coin, but I do want something for that coin. If I go buy $100 worth of D&amp;D stuff, its pretty weak on new ideas (new crunch of old stuff). If I go spend $100 on Savage Worlds* - now I have some new ideas and concepts.* It is a bit unfair to compare these at this stage. D&amp;D is a beast and is supporting a significant business model. And what makes the big $ is player crunch.&nbsp; Savage Worlds does not have the scale, and likely most of the designers have other jobs. Since they are not going to make that much money anyway, they can make what they want, which generally are cool setting ideas. But, that is what is getting my gamer $ these days.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="amerigoV, post: 5374018"] What!?!?!?! Its all about winning. Thats why they keep score (XP/Level/Loot). Ignoring what its being compared to, Wizards is on a dangerous treadmill. They keep rehashing the same stuff over an over ("Look Orc 5.0! Next week, see Gnome 5.0!"). 3.x and 4 are both very solid systems. Not a thing wrong with them other than the eventual bloat. They need to start thinking about what kool stuff they can make in the future because just rollin' a d20 and adding different numbers is not going to get my $ I have no problem spending the coin, but I do want something for that coin. If I go buy $100 worth of D&D stuff, its pretty weak on new ideas (new crunch of old stuff). If I go spend $100 on Savage Worlds* - now I have some new ideas and concepts. * It is a bit unfair to compare these at this stage. D&D is a beast and is supporting a significant business model. And what makes the big $ is player crunch. Savage Worlds does not have the scale, and likely most of the designers have other jobs. Since they are not going to make that much money anyway, they can make what they want, which generally are cool setting ideas. But, that is what is getting my gamer $ these days. [/QUOTE]

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