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<blockquote data-quote="Jackinthegreen" data-source="post: 6268433" data-attributes="member: 6678119"><p>Somatic components are found under the "weapons and armor proficiency" heading for warlocks on page 7 in Complete Arcane. The specific wording is:</p><p>"Because the somatic components required for warlock invocations are relatively simple, a warlock can use any of his invocations while wearing light armor without incurring the normal arcane spell failure chance."</p><p></p><p>Regarding EB being an invocation, the errata for Complete Arcane specifically changed it. The wording is:</p><p>"Page 8: Invocations and Eldritch Blast</p><p>Change this section as follows:</p><p>Invocations and Eldritch Blast: Eldritch blast is an invocation. Other invocations provide a warlock with the ability to modify his eldritch blast or add new eldritch attacks."</p><p> </p><p>Errata can be downloaded from <a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20040125a" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20040125a</a> as usual.</p><p></p><p>Pretty sure those rules citations should work for you, yes?</p><p></p><p>As far as what kind of weapon eldritch glaive is or isn't: It is an invocation (as the errata corrects), not actually a weapon in the sense of a manufactured one used to smack stuff. Regular EB is a ray, since the definition of a ray is a ranged spell attack (take a look at the SRD <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/spellDescriptions.htm#effect" target="_blank">here</a> under Effects for Ray rules.) Using EG changes EB to a melee touch attack, but it does not change the fact that it's still a spell-like ability and thus not actually weapon. The logical conclusion from this is it cannot be counted as a light weapon because it is not an actual weapon in the first place. It still being a spell effect is a fundamental part of spells in general, and spells will specifically call out if they behave like weapons such as the <a href="http://dndtools.eu/spells/spell-compendium--86/ice-axe--3862/" target="_blank">Ice Axe</a> spell from Spell Compendium.</p><p></p><p>The part where it -might- be called a light weapon in any sense is through the weapon-like spell rules in Complete Arcane, pages 72 and 73. The issue there is it specifically says spells with a range of touch can benefit from Weapon Finesse, but since EG is a melee touch attack, which is different from a touch range spell, it doesn't actually benefit from that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Regarding the dragon's weapons: You've messed up on the dragon not getting strength to damage on those attacks. Primary natural weapons get 1x strength to damage, while secondary ones get 1/2x str to damage usually. In the case of true dragons, page 68 of the Monster Manual says that bites add 1x strength to damage, claws get 1/2 strength and are secondary attacks, wings get 1/2 strength and are also secondary, and tail slaps get 1.5x strength to damage, but are still secondary attacks. Lack of an indication on its bite shows that a dragon's bite is its primary natural attack.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jackinthegreen, post: 6268433, member: 6678119"] Somatic components are found under the "weapons and armor proficiency" heading for warlocks on page 7 in Complete Arcane. The specific wording is: "Because the somatic components required for warlock invocations are relatively simple, a warlock can use any of his invocations while wearing light armor without incurring the normal arcane spell failure chance." Regarding EB being an invocation, the errata for Complete Arcane specifically changed it. The wording is: "Page 8: Invocations and Eldritch Blast Change this section as follows: Invocations and Eldritch Blast: Eldritch blast is an invocation. Other invocations provide a warlock with the ability to modify his eldritch blast or add new eldritch attacks." Errata can be downloaded from [url]http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/er/20040125a[/url] as usual. Pretty sure those rules citations should work for you, yes? As far as what kind of weapon eldritch glaive is or isn't: It is an invocation (as the errata corrects), not actually a weapon in the sense of a manufactured one used to smack stuff. Regular EB is a ray, since the definition of a ray is a ranged spell attack (take a look at the SRD [URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverview/spellDescriptions.htm#effect"]here[/URL] under Effects for Ray rules.) Using EG changes EB to a melee touch attack, but it does not change the fact that it's still a spell-like ability and thus not actually weapon. The logical conclusion from this is it cannot be counted as a light weapon because it is not an actual weapon in the first place. It still being a spell effect is a fundamental part of spells in general, and spells will specifically call out if they behave like weapons such as the [URL="http://dndtools.eu/spells/spell-compendium--86/ice-axe--3862/"]Ice Axe[/URL] spell from Spell Compendium. The part where it -might- be called a light weapon in any sense is through the weapon-like spell rules in Complete Arcane, pages 72 and 73. The issue there is it specifically says spells with a range of touch can benefit from Weapon Finesse, but since EG is a melee touch attack, which is different from a touch range spell, it doesn't actually benefit from that. Regarding the dragon's weapons: You've messed up on the dragon not getting strength to damage on those attacks. Primary natural weapons get 1x strength to damage, while secondary ones get 1/2x str to damage usually. In the case of true dragons, page 68 of the Monster Manual says that bites add 1x strength to damage, claws get 1/2 strength and are secondary attacks, wings get 1/2 strength and are also secondary, and tail slaps get 1.5x strength to damage, but are still secondary attacks. Lack of an indication on its bite shows that a dragon's bite is its primary natural attack. [/QUOTE]
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