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<blockquote data-quote="Shades of Eternity" data-source="post: 5542501" data-attributes="member: 10869">a buddy of mine has this habit of coming up with crazy ideas.he was attempting to try to make a universal methodology that would be balenced within the 3.5/modern mechanics...and well ...see for yourself:[code]Talent Level 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Talent Level 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Talent Level 3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Talent Level 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; FEAT 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; FEAT 2Roll Di&nbsp; &nbsp; Self&nbsp; &nbsp; 1/Rnd&nbsp; &nbsp; ReRoll an Attack or Initiative or Skill or Save. KEEP the 2nd Roll.&nbsp; &nbsp; Roll Twice and KEEP the BEST&nbsp; &nbsp; TAKE 10 in combat&nbsp; &nbsp; TAKE 20 in combat&nbsp; &nbsp; GIVE to 1 Ally Touch&nbsp; &nbsp; Close or ADD to 1 Ally TouchRoll Di&nbsp; &nbsp; Enemy&nbsp; &nbsp; 1/Rnd&nbsp; &nbsp; ReRoll an Attack or Initiative or Skill or Save. KEEP the 2nd Roll.&nbsp; &nbsp; Roll Twice and KEEP the WORST&nbsp; &nbsp; -5 to Roll&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; -10 to Roll&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; GIVE to 1 Ally Touch&nbsp; &nbsp; Close or ADD to 1 Enemy TouchResist&nbsp; &nbsp; Self&nbsp; &nbsp; 1/Rnd&nbsp; &nbsp; Gain Resistance 5 to ONE Energy Type or Poison or DR Type&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; UPGRADE Resist 10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; UPGRADE Resist 15&nbsp; &nbsp; UPGRADE Immune&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; GIVE to 1 Ally Touch&nbsp; &nbsp; Close or ADD to 1 Ally TouchVul&nbsp; &nbsp; Enemy&nbsp; &nbsp; 1/Rnd&nbsp; &nbsp; Gain Vulnerability 5 to ONE Energy Type or Poison or DR Type&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; UPGRADE Vul 10&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; UPGRADE Vul 15&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; UPGRADE Vul 20&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; GIVE to 1 Ally Touch&nbsp; &nbsp; Close or ADD to 1 Enemy TouchSub&nbsp; &nbsp; Self&nbsp; &nbsp; 1/Rnd&nbsp; &nbsp; Sub a Spfc Skill for Similar Spcfc Skill. Physical or Mental or Social.&nbsp; &nbsp; Sub Skill for Diff P/M/S Skill&nbsp; &nbsp; Sub Skill for Save&nbsp; &nbsp; Sub Skill for Attk&nbsp; &nbsp; GIVE to 1 Ally Touch&nbsp; &nbsp; Close or ADD to 1 Ally TouchCond&nbsp; &nbsp; Either&nbsp; &nbsp; 1/Rnd&nbsp; &nbsp; GIVE Condition. Lasts 1 Round&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; LASTS 1 Rnd/Lvl; SAVE&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Different SAVE&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2 SAVES&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; LASTS 5 Minutes&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; LASTS 1 HourEffect&nbsp; &nbsp; Either&nbsp; &nbsp; 1/Rnd&nbsp; &nbsp; GIVE Effect. Lasts 1 Round&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; LASTS 1 Rnd/Lvl; SAVE&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Different SAVE&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2 SAVES&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; LASTS 5 Minutes&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; LASTS 1 Hour[/code]in a nutshell, he's trying to redefine the relationship between talents and feats and set it up in a chart for easy extrapolation.&nbsp; he's also saying how taking a feat changes the nature of the talents.I get his logic, but it seems off.how would this system radically change pcs with this mechanic and is it at all to scale with the standard spine?edit: is there any easy way to post part of an xls file without spending 20 minutes lining stuff up?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Shades of Eternity, post: 5542501, member: 10869"] a buddy of mine has this habit of coming up with crazy ideas. he was attempting to try to make a universal methodology that would be balenced within the 3.5/modern mechanics...and well ...see for yourself: [code] Talent Level 1 Talent Level 2 Talent Level 3 Talent Level 4 FEAT 1 FEAT 2 Roll Di Self 1/Rnd ReRoll an Attack or Initiative or Skill or Save. KEEP the 2nd Roll. Roll Twice and KEEP the BEST TAKE 10 in combat TAKE 20 in combat GIVE to 1 Ally Touch Close or ADD to 1 Ally Touch Roll Di Enemy 1/Rnd ReRoll an Attack or Initiative or Skill or Save. KEEP the 2nd Roll. Roll Twice and KEEP the WORST -5 to Roll -10 to Roll GIVE to 1 Ally Touch Close or ADD to 1 Enemy Touch Resist Self 1/Rnd Gain Resistance 5 to ONE Energy Type or Poison or DR Type UPGRADE Resist 10 UPGRADE Resist 15 UPGRADE Immune GIVE to 1 Ally Touch Close or ADD to 1 Ally Touch Vul Enemy 1/Rnd Gain Vulnerability 5 to ONE Energy Type or Poison or DR Type UPGRADE Vul 10 UPGRADE Vul 15 UPGRADE Vul 20 GIVE to 1 Ally Touch Close or ADD to 1 Enemy Touch Sub Self 1/Rnd Sub a Spfc Skill for Similar Spcfc Skill. Physical or Mental or Social. Sub Skill for Diff P/M/S Skill Sub Skill for Save Sub Skill for Attk GIVE to 1 Ally Touch Close or ADD to 1 Ally Touch Cond Either 1/Rnd GIVE Condition. Lasts 1 Round LASTS 1 Rnd/Lvl; SAVE Different SAVE 2 SAVES LASTS 5 Minutes LASTS 1 Hour Effect Either 1/Rnd GIVE Effect. Lasts 1 Round LASTS 1 Rnd/Lvl; SAVE Different SAVE 2 SAVES LASTS 5 Minutes LASTS 1 Hour [/code] in a nutshell, he's trying to redefine the relationship between talents and feats and set it up in a chart for easy extrapolation. he's also saying how taking a feat changes the nature of the talents. I get his logic, but it seems off. how would this system radically change pcs with this mechanic and is it at all to scale with the standard spine? edit: is there any easy way to post part of an xls file without spending 20 minutes lining stuff up? [/QUOTE]

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