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<blockquote data-quote="Leif" data-source="post: 5411739" data-attributes="member: 48762">Now, so far, I've been dividing energy/effort more or less equaly between 4E and Pathfinder, though I must say that 4E has required a much larger investment of $$. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown&nbsp; &nbsp; :("&nbsp; data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />&nbsp; But I went on strike against WOtC a couple of books ago, and I'm trying my level best to get by without the Essentials line at all.&nbsp; (I recently wavered a bit, and actually considered buying one.&nbsp; I resisted, and the urge passed, thank goodness.)&nbsp; But as far as comparing an entire rpg line (Pathfinder) to&nbsp; just a series of books invented for the sole purpose of relieving loyal DnDers of more of their hard-won bucks (my impression of Essentials), I have to say that Pathfinder wins that contest with great ease.My solution??&nbsp; GURPS 4E!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> phooey on WOtC!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Leif, post: 5411739, member: 48762"] Now, so far, I've been dividing energy/effort more or less equaly between 4E and Pathfinder, though I must say that 4E has required a much larger investment of $$. :( But I went on strike against WOtC a couple of books ago, and I'm trying my level best to get by without the Essentials line at all. (I recently wavered a bit, and actually considered buying one. I resisted, and the urge passed, thank goodness.) But as far as comparing an entire rpg line (Pathfinder) to just a series of books invented for the sole purpose of relieving loyal DnDers of more of their hard-won bucks (my impression of Essentials), I have to say that Pathfinder wins that contest with great ease. My solution?? GURPS 4E!! :p phooey on WOtC! [/QUOTE]

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