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Threatening Unarmed?
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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 471662" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>I can find a lot of inneuendo, but it points in both directions.</p><p>Here's what I've found.</p><p></p><p>PHB Pg. 122</p><p></p><p>Making an AOO: An AOO is a single melee attack.</p><p></p><p>pg. 123</p><p>Melee Attacks: With a normal melee WEAPON...</p><p></p><p></p><p>Unarmed strikes aren't weapons, or else they would be armed strikes, like a monk has.</p><p></p><p>But then I found</p><p>Pg. 135, Dealing Subdual Damage</p><p></p><p>you can use a WEAPON that deal subdual damage, including an unarmed strike... </p><p></p><p></p><p>That makes it sound like unarmed strikes are considered melee weapons. Making it sound like unarmed strikes do threaten.</p><p></p><p>BUt then</p><p></p><p>pg. 140</p><p>Attacks of Oppurtunity:</p><p>...An unarmed attack does not provoke AOO from toher foes...nor does it provoke an AOO from an unarmed foe.</p><p></p><p>Armed Unarmed Attacks: ...Not only does a monk not provoke an AOO when attackin an armed foe, but you provoke an AOO from a monk if you make an AOO against her.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So in that context, it sounds like being unarmed does not threaten.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Damn, this issue used to be so clear cut.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 471662, member: 5889"] I can find a lot of inneuendo, but it points in both directions. Here's what I've found. PHB Pg. 122 Making an AOO: An AOO is a single melee attack. pg. 123 Melee Attacks: With a normal melee WEAPON... Unarmed strikes aren't weapons, or else they would be armed strikes, like a monk has. But then I found Pg. 135, Dealing Subdual Damage you can use a WEAPON that deal subdual damage, including an unarmed strike... That makes it sound like unarmed strikes are considered melee weapons. Making it sound like unarmed strikes do threaten. BUt then pg. 140 Attacks of Oppurtunity: ...An unarmed attack does not provoke AOO from toher foes...nor does it provoke an AOO from an unarmed foe. Armed Unarmed Attacks: ...Not only does a monk not provoke an AOO when attackin an armed foe, but you provoke an AOO from a monk if you make an AOO against her. So in that context, it sounds like being unarmed does not threaten. Damn, this issue used to be so clear cut. [/QUOTE]
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