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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aaron2" data-source="post: 479794" data-attributes="member: 1436">Ok. I can see where your coming from. However, I disagree with this ruling. You only take the TWF penalties if you use two weapons to gain an extra attack. For example, a character has both a whip and a short sword.  He can make his normal attack with his whip and then make an AoO with his short sword w/o TWF penalties because he didn't make the extra off-hand attack. Likewise, if he has multiple attacks from BAB, he can attack with each weapons in the same round w/o penalties (except for the normal -5 for subsequent attacks) in the same way he can attack with his sword and follow that up with a grapple w/o penalties.Think of Legolas. With a +6/+1 attack sequence he can stab an orc in the eye with an arrow as his first attack and then fire the arrow with his bow as his second attack. He's not really two-weapon fighting.Its like Rapid Fire, you only get the penalty if you get the extra shot.Aaron (on a tangent now)</blockquote>