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THREE elven races, plus half-elves ... but they say gnomes have no niche?!
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<blockquote data-quote="PeterWeller" data-source="post: 3949110" data-attributes="member: 55795"><p>Are you assuming a monster manual presentation is as detailed and focused as a PHB one? </p><p></p><p>The developers have stated numerous times that they wanted each PHB1 race to fill a very distinct and exclusive niche. In <em>R&C</em> they stated that none of the niches they came up with for Gnomes were distinct or exclusive. Ispo facto, Gnomes don't get to be in PHB1. The MM, on the other hand, contains a much broader variety of races and monsters, many of which share the same niche (Kobolds, Goblins, Orcs, Hobgoblins, Gnolls, and Bugbears for example), so Gnomes can be included in that. I bet the only reason Gnomes are even in MM1 is so people who <em>really</em> like them can play them, even though the developers don't believe their current version of the race is up to PHB standards.</p><p></p><p>Now, we can speculate all we want about why Gnomes weren't developed into a distinct and exclusive niche. Maybe marketing deemed that face time be given to more flashy and "cool" races. Maybe the developers were too caught up thinking about other races. Maybe the developers just hate Gnomes. Maybe they don't really hate Gnomes, but they do <em>really</em> hate people who play Gnomes. Maybe by trying to stay true to what Gnomes were in previous editions, they developed a concept that they didn't feel was up to PHB snuff. Whatever the reason, the statement that Gnomes aren't in PHB1 because Gnomes don't have a unique and distinct enough niche in the world to be presented as one of the "core" 4E races isn't in any way disingenuous.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PeterWeller, post: 3949110, member: 55795"] Are you assuming a monster manual presentation is as detailed and focused as a PHB one? The developers have stated numerous times that they wanted each PHB1 race to fill a very distinct and exclusive niche. In [i]R&C[/i] they stated that none of the niches they came up with for Gnomes were distinct or exclusive. Ispo facto, Gnomes don't get to be in PHB1. The MM, on the other hand, contains a much broader variety of races and monsters, many of which share the same niche (Kobolds, Goblins, Orcs, Hobgoblins, Gnolls, and Bugbears for example), so Gnomes can be included in that. I bet the only reason Gnomes are even in MM1 is so people who [i]really[/i] like them can play them, even though the developers don't believe their current version of the race is up to PHB standards. Now, we can speculate all we want about why Gnomes weren't developed into a distinct and exclusive niche. Maybe marketing deemed that face time be given to more flashy and "cool" races. Maybe the developers were too caught up thinking about other races. Maybe the developers just hate Gnomes. Maybe they don't really hate Gnomes, but they do [i]really[/i] hate people who play Gnomes. Maybe by trying to stay true to what Gnomes were in previous editions, they developed a concept that they didn't feel was up to PHB snuff. Whatever the reason, the statement that Gnomes aren't in PHB1 because Gnomes don't have a unique and distinct enough niche in the world to be presented as one of the "core" 4E races isn't in any way disingenuous. [/QUOTE]
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