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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoutonRustique" data-source="post: 6966601" data-attributes="member: 22362">Well, at least you started out small. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />But on a more serious note, as to the bolded part (using bounded accuracy in 4e), I've come to the following conclusions:1- (bad news) it's not going to work ... :'(2- (very good news) it already works! ... whaaa? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/worried.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":-S" title="Uhm    :-S" data-shortname=":-S" />The Nerverwinter book has show us the path and the way! [Preach!]IMO, the best way to get that bounded accuracy feel is the following: - completely decouple level progression from battle-xp (or anything other than goal/quest xp really)- de-level everything into a tighter level range (by "elite-ing" and "solo-ing" creatures you want to be associated with "This Dangerous!")- revamp the ritual system so that the strongest rituals you want to enter your game do so (for instance, I've divided the required level by 2 - the way most rituals work, I feel pretty confident in saying you won't really break anything before hitting Epic level rituals. And even then...)- close your eyes, take a deep breath... and really, really try to ignore the number of levels stated in the books (I know this is the hardest one for me...)The "run-away" leveling the WotC adventures taught us is, IMO, the main culprit in feeding the "number treadmill". On the whole, monsters are so easy to up-and-down-level, there's no real reason for most of them to have the level that they do.There's also a sort of weird human-based thing that happened: they can't produce every humanoid at the same level. Thus, we get a certain "ranking" of humanoids with each kind appearing at a given level-range. This strongly reinforces the kobold-goblin-orc-gnoll-ogre-troll, and the fact that there are easy numbers next to them really reinforces (again!) the idea that they should be used now and then discarded for the next "evolution" so-to-speak.Ok, this has turned into a meandering rant... this wasn't my intent, and I've got stuff to do! Damn ranting fingers!</blockquote>

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