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<blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 5828823" data-attributes="member: 92305">Pg. 23, 3.5 DMG: If both sides are aware at the same time and can interact, both should roll initiative and resolve actions normally.&nbsp;Then, there is an example on the same page that says: A party of adventurers comes along a dungeon corridor and hears the laughter of orcs beyond the door ahead. Meanwhile, the orc lookout sees the adventurers through a peephole in the door and warns his comrades. The door is closed, so no direct interaction is possible yet. And the example ends with description of the actions being taken on both sides of the door with the DM taking note of the combat rounds as they pass.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;This is exactly what I was hoping I have been wrong about. Clearly, initiative takes place at awareness and when somebody initiates an attack.&nbsp;If I were GMing this scenario, I don't think I would go into combat rounds until at least the door was opened--and I'd probably wait for the commencement of an attack. I don't think it efficient or fun to play through combat rounds in that example, keeping track of the rounds as they pass.&nbsp;In other words, I'd probably play it the way you say, but the book says what it says.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Water Bob, post: 5828823, member: 92305"] Pg. 23, 3.5 DMG: [COLOR=green]If both sides are aware at the same time and can interact, both should roll initiative and resolve actions normally.[/COLOR] Then, there is an example on the same page that says: [COLOR=green]A party of adventurers comes along a dungeon corridor and hears the laughter of orcs beyond the door ahead. Meanwhile, the orc lookout sees the adventurers through a peephole in the door and warns his comrades. The door is closed, so no direct interaction is possible yet.[/COLOR] And the example ends with description of the actions being taken on both sides of the door with the DM taking note of the combat rounds as they pass. This is exactly what I was hoping I have been wrong about. Clearly, initiative takes place at awareness and when somebody initiates an attack. If I were GMing this scenario, I don't think I would go into combat rounds until at least the door was opened--and I'd probably wait for the commencement of an attack. I don't think it efficient or fun to play through combat rounds in that example, keeping track of the rounds as they pass. In other words, I'd probably play it the way you say, but the book says what it says. [/QUOTE]

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