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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5149877" data-attributes="member: 71571">I'm going to stop you right here, and I'm really happy for you, bow seekers, but thrown seekers have the best to-hit bonus of all time.  Of all time!It has the Heavy Thrown property.Throwing Seekers get +1 to hit with throwing weapons; bow seekers do not get +1 to hit with bows.Therefore the comparision is +3/1d8 vs +2/1d10.On a -ranger- you'd be correct.  On a -seeker- you need to actually include the numbers seekers use.But you -are- right about the feat thing.  So, if you're spending a feat, it's for drow longknife, which IS +4 to hit.Controller.  +4 weapon.Here's a question for you.If you're playing a psion, wizard, invoker, or druid.  Let's say you have a feat, and it's called 'Inverse Power Attack.'  It says, essentially 'Will you take -3 damage to get +2 to hit.'Now, a war wizard'd not take that.  But if your business is control, and you're concerned about secondary attributes of damage, you take that feat..+2 to hit is NOT TRIVIAL for any class, but especially not for a seeker, whose job as thrown, again, isn't 'deal tons of damage', but 'foil the enemy's plans.' Hell, +2 to hit for -3 damage might even be a viable option for a striker....Of course, a thrown seeker is kinda funny, they can take Power Throw which puts them back where they started more or less... but eh.The main point is, you're too caught up on damage when you're comparing a non-high-damage build to a damaging build.  Bonus to hit is vastly more important for a controller than what amounts to a -small- amount of damage overall; crossbows are better for seekers than bows.And yes, bow-seekers are good too, but for a different reason.</blockquote>

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