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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6351151" data-attributes="member: 2011">Whatever.We play at our table to have fun, not for the DM (and possibly a new DM) to try to figure out what an author was smoking when he put a 16 HD dragon into an encounter for 3rd or 4th level PCs.If you play at your table to either force your players into certain actions (i.e. negotiate) or allow them to get TPKed because they do not want to do what the module is forcing them to do (and one of the players is roleplaying their PC), that's your business. It just doesn't sound like fun to me for the module to be deciding PC actions and punishing them with a TPK if they do not conform (and also for having multiple clues that would result in a fight for the PCs). That's totally lame.My suggestion to the OP, half the Dragon's hit dice and damages. Then, play it smart if it does get in a fight (i.e. never attack from the ground or if it does attack with melee, move in, attack, and fly away so that only one non-melee PC like the wizard or archer gets an OA and the rest of the PCs have to rely on ranged attacks; grab PCs and drop them from a significant height; run away at 75% damaged instead of 50%, etc.). It still makes it a tough encounter, but at least the players have a fair chance of avoiding a TPK.Sorry, but this encounter is just plain terrible. Just because something is written down in a WotC adventure does not necessarily make it anywhere near a good idea.</blockquote>

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