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<blockquote data-quote="0-hr" data-source="post: 271560" data-attributes="member: 4734">Hey, that's a good point! So how about this:1) I cast Greater Planar Ally, begging my deity to send me a a couatl.2) I bargain with the couatl to Plane Shift myself and my allies to the bad guy's demiplane (which we've viewed briefly via Zone of Revelation).3) We gate in a kill the mind suckers once and for all.A couatl is a 9HD outsider, just a tad too big for Lesser Planar Ally. Since Greater Planar Ally is such overkill, hopefully my diety will be in a benevolent mood regarding my request (and not send me a horde or earth elementals or some such). And really, just asking for a Plane Shift should not be too much of a hardship for the big snake. I don't need to the couatl to fight for us. I don't even need a ride back (I can Plane Shift myself out of the demiplane). So, at least in theory, the barganing should not be too hard.If that doesn't work, then I guess Plan B will be to try out Mass Manifest. Since we could see the demiplane with Zone of Revelation, we should be able to Manifest it neh?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="0-hr, post: 271560, member: 4734"] Hey, that's a good point! So how about this: 1) I cast Greater Planar Ally, begging my deity to send me a a couatl. 2) I bargain with the couatl to Plane Shift myself and my allies to the bad guy's demiplane (which we've viewed briefly via Zone of Revelation). 3) We gate in a kill the mind suckers once and for all. A couatl is a 9HD outsider, just a tad too big for Lesser Planar Ally. Since Greater Planar Ally is such overkill, hopefully my diety will be in a benevolent mood regarding my request (and not send me a horde or earth elementals or some such). And really, just asking for a Plane Shift should not be too much of a hardship for the big snake. I don't need to the couatl to fight for us. I don't even need a ride back (I can Plane Shift myself [i]out[/i] of the demiplane). So, at least in theory, the barganing should not be too hard. If that doesn't work, then I guess Plan B will be to try out Mass Manifest. Since we could see the demiplane with Zone of Revelation, we should be able to Manifest it neh? [/QUOTE]

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