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<blockquote data-quote="Steady Vane" data-source="post: 9840933" data-attributes="member: 7051331">One of the funny things about 5e is that it has come out how certain &quot;iconic&quot; spells do too much damage on purpose. They had a spell formula, and purposely ignored it for certain spells to make them more &quot;fun&quot; - fun meaning overpowered for their level.If I recall correctly, this also applies to most Dragons in the CR calculations. They are flat out stronger than they should be for their CR level. Now this has not been stated, but presumably that choice would follow the same logic. They are iconic and should be more powerful to be &quot;fun&quot;.When it comes to spells, Fireball is the most notorious, but I think I recall people who did spell cleanups for 5e stating that there were one or two per spell level that were chosen as well, if simply not as well known.All that to say, could the Stegosaurus be another such monster case, where it's simply more powerful than it should be, because it's an &quot;iconic&quot; monster?Addendum: This is why I rely on averages when making 5e monsters, it tends to drown out the outliers. Tomedunn's blog has been a great source of such math crunching</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Steady Vane, post: 9840933, member: 7051331"] One of the funny things about 5e is that it has come out how certain "iconic" spells do too much damage on purpose. They had a spell formula, and purposely ignored it for certain spells to make them more "fun" - fun meaning overpowered for their level. If I recall correctly, this also applies to most Dragons in the CR calculations. They are flat out stronger than they should be for their CR level. Now this has not been stated, but presumably that choice would follow the same logic. They are iconic and should be more powerful to be "fun". When it comes to spells, Fireball is the most notorious, but I think I recall people who did spell cleanups for 5e stating that there were one or two per spell level that were chosen as well, if simply not as well known. All that to say, could the Stegosaurus be another such monster case, where it's simply more powerful than it should be, because it's an "iconic" monster? Addendum: This is why I rely on averages when making 5e monsters, it tends to drown out the outliers. Tomedunn's blog has been a great source of such math crunching [/QUOTE]

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