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Tiefling and half-orc should not be in the PHB
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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5822711" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>I have no objection to half-orcs and tieflings, but ability score adjustments should go away. All they do is encourage min-maxing, leading to really bland parties where races are chosen not because the player <em>actually</em> wants to play an elf, but because they want to get that Dex bonus.</p><p></p><p>And ability penalties are just as bad, making the cost of playing against type too great to ever really be considered.</p><p></p><p>All of the ability score generation methods that are being seriously talked about allow the player to assign stats to scores as he or she sees fit. That being the case, modelling the 'strong' race is trivial - assign your best score to Strength. (And, incidentally, the exact same logic applies to gender adjustments and aging adjustments - if you want them, assign the stats accordingly. There's just no need for specific modifiers.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 5822711, member: 22424"] I have no objection to half-orcs and tieflings, but ability score adjustments should go away. All they do is encourage min-maxing, leading to really bland parties where races are chosen not because the player [i]actually[/i] wants to play an elf, but because they want to get that Dex bonus. And ability penalties are just as bad, making the cost of playing against type too great to ever really be considered. All of the ability score generation methods that are being seriously talked about allow the player to assign stats to scores as he or she sees fit. That being the case, modelling the 'strong' race is trivial - assign your best score to Strength. (And, incidentally, the exact same logic applies to gender adjustments and aging adjustments - if you want them, assign the stats accordingly. There's just no need for specific modifiers.) [/QUOTE]
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