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Tiefling and half-orc should not be in the PHB
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<blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 5822937" data-attributes="member: 63"><p>Can we compromise?</p><p></p><p><strong>PHB Races</strong></p><p>A write-up for Humans that gives brief examples of classic fantasy cultural niches humans fill. Includes the various racial perks humans get (probably extra feat and skill stuff). Have a sidebar that mentions human off-shoots, like half-elves, half-orcs, goliaths, and kalashtar.</p><p></p><p>Similar write-ups for dwarves, elves, and halflings. The dwarf section mentions duergar, derro, and muls. The elf section includes a side-bar mentioning elven sub-races, drow, and eladrin. The halfling section mentions hobbits, kender, and gnomes as other common short races (but emphasizes that only the bigger races get them confused).</p><p></p><p>Those are the only races with full write-ups. Then you have, like, a 4-page section of other races, listing only a one-sentence description, plus stats. Say at the start that many of these races are viewed as monsters (and so you can find more details in the Monster Manual), and that they'll receive fuller treatment in later books, including things like feats and prestige classes/paragon paths.</p><p></p><p>Then the exotic list can have:</p><p></p><p>aasimar</p><p>bugbear</p><p>changeling</p><p>deva</p><p>dragonborn</p><p>drow</p><p>duergar</p><p>eladrin</p><p>gnome</p><p>goblin</p><p>goliath</p><p>half-elf</p><p>half-orc</p><p>hobgoblin</p><p>kalashtar</p><p>kender</p><p>minotaur</p><p>orc</p><p>revenant</p><p>shifter</p><p>tiefling</p><p>treefolk</p><p>warforged</p><p></p><p>Sort of like the section at the end of the 4e Monster Manual.</p><p></p><p>(I think we can safely hold off on genasi, githyanki, githzerai, hamadryad, janni, pixie, satyr, shade, shardmind, vryloka, and wilden.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RangerWickett, post: 5822937, member: 63"] Can we compromise? [b]PHB Races[/b] A write-up for Humans that gives brief examples of classic fantasy cultural niches humans fill. Includes the various racial perks humans get (probably extra feat and skill stuff). Have a sidebar that mentions human off-shoots, like half-elves, half-orcs, goliaths, and kalashtar. Similar write-ups for dwarves, elves, and halflings. The dwarf section mentions duergar, derro, and muls. The elf section includes a side-bar mentioning elven sub-races, drow, and eladrin. The halfling section mentions hobbits, kender, and gnomes as other common short races (but emphasizes that only the bigger races get them confused). Those are the only races with full write-ups. Then you have, like, a 4-page section of other races, listing only a one-sentence description, plus stats. Say at the start that many of these races are viewed as monsters (and so you can find more details in the Monster Manual), and that they'll receive fuller treatment in later books, including things like feats and prestige classes/paragon paths. Then the exotic list can have: aasimar bugbear changeling deva dragonborn drow duergar eladrin gnome goblin goliath half-elf half-orc hobgoblin kalashtar kender minotaur orc revenant shifter tiefling treefolk warforged Sort of like the section at the end of the 4e Monster Manual. (I think we can safely hold off on genasi, githyanki, githzerai, hamadryad, janni, pixie, satyr, shade, shardmind, vryloka, and wilden.) [/QUOTE]
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