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Tiefling and half-orc should not be in the PHB
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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5822951" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>I agree that the LAs were almost invariably too high, and I agree that there was a problem with high racial hit dice not absorbing LA.</p><p></p><p>However, there were significant additional problems with LA that weren't so simply resolved. Basically, the moment you started playing against type, your character was nerfed unless you happened to cherry-pick exactly the right powers. Compare the disparities between an Ogre Wizard 5 and an Orge Barbarian 5, versus those for a Half-orc of the same ECL in those classes.</p><p></p><p>The system absolutely could be made to work, and it was certainly better than just nothing (at least, assuming you allowed monster PCs at all). But it was best operated by having the DM and the player get together and thrash out an individual solution for the given PC. I'm not sure that's something that can be systemised at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm aware of that. I'm not advocating that "Savage Species" is the solution; I'm advocating that a book <em>like</em> "Savage Species" is the solution.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 5822951, member: 22424"] I agree that the LAs were almost invariably too high, and I agree that there was a problem with high racial hit dice not absorbing LA. However, there were significant additional problems with LA that weren't so simply resolved. Basically, the moment you started playing against type, your character was nerfed unless you happened to cherry-pick exactly the right powers. Compare the disparities between an Ogre Wizard 5 and an Orge Barbarian 5, versus those for a Half-orc of the same ECL in those classes. The system absolutely could be made to work, and it was certainly better than just nothing (at least, assuming you allowed monster PCs at all). But it was best operated by having the DM and the player get together and thrash out an individual solution for the given PC. I'm not sure that's something that can be systemised at all. I'm aware of that. I'm not advocating that "Savage Species" is the solution; I'm advocating that a book [i]like[/i] "Savage Species" is the solution. [/QUOTE]
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