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Tiefling and half-orc should not be in the PHB
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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 5823175" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>Well but if we say these things <em>after</em> the game is published, isn't that too late to complain? I think a lot of people write their opinions strongly on WotC boards because they hope that the designers will in fact make some decisions based on what they perceive as common feelings and preferences. It's a sort of feedback, after all.</p><p></p><p>About the modularity, what you say is absolutely true for the mechanics, but here we're discussing the fluff. Well not exactly the fluff since races also have crunch, but what I mean is that once you have set the PHB races, you can be sure this choice <em>will</em> determine what will be in published settings: not all of them, but some for sure, especially all the new settings. Take a look at what happened at Forgotten Realms in 4e: since Dragonborn were in the PHB, they had to allocate them in Faerun too. FR of course has a history of ridiculous world-shattering events to reflect edition changes... But imagine what would happen now if 5e designers decide to put a new race in the PHB, something outrageously lame for the majority of gamers but for some reason the chief designers think it's cool: then you will have that race in half the settings published for 5e. </p><p></p><p>Of course you can always say "I just don't use that race", but it's not the same thing as not using a mechanic, which (if 5e does modularity properly) means you will have to ignore a bunch of feats/spells/etc per book. To eliminate a race from a setting and its adventures you'll have a harder job ahead IMHO.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 5823175, member: 1465"] Well but if we say these things [I]after[/I] the game is published, isn't that too late to complain? I think a lot of people write their opinions strongly on WotC boards because they hope that the designers will in fact make some decisions based on what they perceive as common feelings and preferences. It's a sort of feedback, after all. About the modularity, what you say is absolutely true for the mechanics, but here we're discussing the fluff. Well not exactly the fluff since races also have crunch, but what I mean is that once you have set the PHB races, you can be sure this choice [I]will[/I] determine what will be in published settings: not all of them, but some for sure, especially all the new settings. Take a look at what happened at Forgotten Realms in 4e: since Dragonborn were in the PHB, they had to allocate them in Faerun too. FR of course has a history of ridiculous world-shattering events to reflect edition changes... But imagine what would happen now if 5e designers decide to put a new race in the PHB, something outrageously lame for the majority of gamers but for some reason the chief designers think it's cool: then you will have that race in half the settings published for 5e. Of course you can always say "I just don't use that race", but it's not the same thing as not using a mechanic, which (if 5e does modularity properly) means you will have to ignore a bunch of feats/spells/etc per book. To eliminate a race from a setting and its adventures you'll have a harder job ahead IMHO. [/QUOTE]
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