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Tiefling and half-orc should not be in the PHB
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<blockquote data-quote="FitzTheRuke" data-source="post: 5823347" data-attributes="member: 59816"><p>I'm sure it's way to late in this thread (and I stopped reading after a few pages so it might have been mentioned) to point out that there's evidence that 5e will have a stronger "rule zero" than ever before.</p><p></p><p>There's evidence to suggest that race and class (and perhaps other things) will come with a built-in "rarity" with the idea that only "common" races and classes would be expected to be allowed by a DM without consultation, and "Rare" races and classes one would expect to clear with their DM (unless they know the DM well and she's already cleared 'em, 'natch.)</p><p></p><p>I'd expect Tieflings to list as rare, though Half-Orcs might only be uncommon. (Though in the latter case that would still give even a passive DM the needed clout to limit them if so desired.)</p><p></p><p>Seems easy to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FitzTheRuke, post: 5823347, member: 59816"] I'm sure it's way to late in this thread (and I stopped reading after a few pages so it might have been mentioned) to point out that there's evidence that 5e will have a stronger "rule zero" than ever before. There's evidence to suggest that race and class (and perhaps other things) will come with a built-in "rarity" with the idea that only "common" races and classes would be expected to be allowed by a DM without consultation, and "Rare" races and classes one would expect to clear with their DM (unless they know the DM well and she's already cleared 'em, 'natch.) I'd expect Tieflings to list as rare, though Half-Orcs might only be uncommon. (Though in the latter case that would still give even a passive DM the needed clout to limit them if so desired.) Seems easy to me. [/QUOTE]
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