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Tiefling and half-orc should not be in the PHB
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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 5824889" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>We may be reading different books. But keep in mind there is a difference bewteen being standard and not being a new concept. These sorts of things do exist in fantasy novels, but they arent as standard as elves, gnomes, dwarves and halflings (nor are they as standard in your average fantasy campaign).</p><p></p><p>On the video game enthusiast front, it seems catering to them didn't attract many, and actually drove away many regular table top players. So while winning over this crowd should be important I think it should be done on D&D's terms rather than bending D&D to appeal to them. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>i like human only games as well. My guess is you are correct here. Back in the 90s TSR did offer mechanical distinctions for humans of different backgrounds in some settings (i think they did it for birthright however). The problem is because these were mostly analogues to real people and ethnicities it was difficult not to offend people</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 5824889, member: 85555"] We may be reading different books. But keep in mind there is a difference bewteen being standard and not being a new concept. These sorts of things do exist in fantasy novels, but they arent as standard as elves, gnomes, dwarves and halflings (nor are they as standard in your average fantasy campaign). On the video game enthusiast front, it seems catering to them didn't attract many, and actually drove away many regular table top players. So while winning over this crowd should be important I think it should be done on D&D's terms rather than bending D&D to appeal to them. i like human only games as well. My guess is you are correct here. Back in the 90s TSR did offer mechanical distinctions for humans of different backgrounds in some settings (i think they did it for birthright however). The problem is because these were mostly analogues to real people and ethnicities it was difficult not to offend people [/QUOTE]
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