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Tiefling and half-orc should not be in the PHB
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<blockquote data-quote="avin" data-source="post: 5824932" data-attributes="member: 6762"><p>What? Tieflings was a major presence on Planescape, not just 3E and 4E fans like them. Most Tiefling fans come from AD&D2E, not 4E. This is heresy! <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/ponder.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":hmm:" title="Hmmm :hmm:" data-shortname=":hmm:" /></p><p></p><p>And, as somebody else suggested, a vast majority of fantasy books shows humans only as protagonists... not elves, not hobbits, not dwarves.</p><p></p><p>More and more I'm forced to believe there are a lot of Tolkien fans among D&D assuming the only game allowedy is tolkienesque fantasy... outside that is "badwrongfun".</p><p></p><p>It's not.</p><p></p><p>There's more to fantasy than halflings, in fact, considering centuries of fantasy, Halflings are n00bs compared to elves and dwarves.</p><p></p><p>Traditional in D&D is not the same as traditional in fantasy. Unless one thinks Old Good Tolkien started it all...</p><p></p><p>Again, we should respect each other preferences on DDN...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="avin, post: 5824932, member: 6762"] What? Tieflings was a major presence on Planescape, not just 3E and 4E fans like them. Most Tiefling fans come from AD&D2E, not 4E. This is heresy! :hmm: And, as somebody else suggested, a vast majority of fantasy books shows humans only as protagonists... not elves, not hobbits, not dwarves. More and more I'm forced to believe there are a lot of Tolkien fans among D&D assuming the only game allowedy is tolkienesque fantasy... outside that is "badwrongfun". It's not. There's more to fantasy than halflings, in fact, considering centuries of fantasy, Halflings are n00bs compared to elves and dwarves. Traditional in D&D is not the same as traditional in fantasy. Unless one thinks Old Good Tolkien started it all... Again, we should respect each other preferences on DDN... [/QUOTE]
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