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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gyor" data-source="post: 5825346" data-attributes="member: 6670153">Removing choice from other people for your minor convience isn't fair to those that do want those races in, because they don't want to wait a year or more for them. I say this as someone who doesn't play halforcs. I'm so tire of the lets removed options crowd that wants to ruin 5e for everyone else, because other wise that crowd might be inconvienced by people that like choice and gasp, we can have someone who likes half orcs getting uppity. This isn't an edition wars post btw, its fatigue with the options miniumalists trying to stifle choice of every body else at every turn so that they can control thier games. The rest of us have to lose out because some in thier game may want to play something other then the most basic tolkiensic characters. From threads like lets only have fighter, wizard, rogue, and cleric classes, to lets only have elf, human, halfing, dwarf, and gnomes leave me fatigued. If this is who they listen too I predict complete failure of 5e, because those not interested in  a tolkiensic game, and,thier are many of us, will not be interested. Thankfully this doesn't appear to be the direction they appear to be going. Sorry for the rant, I'm usually more positive and understanding, but these miniumalist thread are starting to get at me.</blockquote>