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Tiefling and half-orc should not be in the PHB
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<blockquote data-quote="hikaizer" data-source="post: 5825746" data-attributes="member: 6689474"><p>I play a variety of DnD games, some in more Tolkien-esque settings and many in other bizarre settings. But really the one thought I've had from all of this discussion is the thought that why are we competing for space so much in the core books? I've seen comments of people complaining about races only taking up two pages in the core books if there are too many to choose from. However, isn't 5E supposed to be about choosing what you want mechanically? Wouldn't the core books really be about what you want mechanically out of your game and not thematically or setting-wise? </p><p></p><p>If you're not detailing all the setting information in the races section then really they don't need that much in the way of information. 4E actually did okay in this regard where they gave players a basic overview of the nature of the race and some sample names, as well as giving them mechanically what they needed. </p><p></p><p>More than anything else I think all that's needed is two <em>sections</em> to the races chapter, with each race having a very simple overview of the default setting stereotype. Then the more specific information is found in the DMG who is the person who really needs most of that information. Any few specific questions the PCs might have aren't going to be related to how to write up their character sheets and so the DM can answer them her/himself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hikaizer, post: 5825746, member: 6689474"] I play a variety of DnD games, some in more Tolkien-esque settings and many in other bizarre settings. But really the one thought I've had from all of this discussion is the thought that why are we competing for space so much in the core books? I've seen comments of people complaining about races only taking up two pages in the core books if there are too many to choose from. However, isn't 5E supposed to be about choosing what you want mechanically? Wouldn't the core books really be about what you want mechanically out of your game and not thematically or setting-wise? If you're not detailing all the setting information in the races section then really they don't need that much in the way of information. 4E actually did okay in this regard where they gave players a basic overview of the nature of the race and some sample names, as well as giving them mechanically what they needed. More than anything else I think all that's needed is two [I]sections[/I] to the races chapter, with each race having a very simple overview of the default setting stereotype. Then the more specific information is found in the DMG who is the person who really needs most of that information. Any few specific questions the PCs might have aren't going to be related to how to write up their character sheets and so the DM can answer them her/himself. [/QUOTE]
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