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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Somebloke" data-source="post: 5826228" data-attributes="member: 67268">...you understand that if- hopefully- 5e turns out to have the elegant system you want, then the inclusion of classes and races you can ban right off the bat isn't going to detract from this? I am sorry, but a DM who can't get his players to work with a particular theme or agree to houserules/race or class restrictions to work within his game has issues with his players or his style, not with the options.  5e is hopefully going to be the simple, elegant, narrative (rather than tactical) friendly system I've been looking for, that addresses the issues with Oe to 4e in one go; but I am not going to use it to run Tolkien: the RPG and me- and a lot of people like me, who may not have even been alive in the eighties and certainly don't want to return there- deserve representation too. We have our own cherished characters, our own TPKs due to stupidity or pushing our luck when we shouldn't have, our own epic finales, our own wow-I-can't-believe he did that-moments- our own times when we touched the soul of DnD, hobbits or no. An edition for all, remember?</blockquote>