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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hikaizer" data-source="post: 5827335" data-attributes="member: 6689474">I wonder if part of the problem has been that up until 4E that Players Handbooks were written in mind of a specific default setting. 3E was clearly Greyhawk given its deity listing and 2E was less obviously so. 4E on the other hand didn't really feel much like it was really developed formally. We got hints from various adventure modules but there wasn't really any proper setting. Furthermore the theme and feel (at least to me) seemed to shift and change from the first, to the second and then unto the third Players Handbook.So if the 5E one has some kind of basic setting in it, then the races in the core rules should reflect that. Having a basic character creation or race section with limited options, and then another chapter or section with more advanced options would seem logical and cater to both groups in the discussion.My personal opinion is that as long as I can have access to those extra races in the core package I'm not that fussed whether it's in the core PHB, whether that be all encompassing or split into a "Basic" and "Advanced" set, or if it's in a separate book or not. I just want them to be present in the core package.Also I think perhaps Dragonborn and Tieflings should be separated a little from the other core races. They've got their fans from 4E to be sure, but they're the new kids on the block as far as the whole history of DnD goes. Perhaps making an optional section, including them there and noting that they can fit in, or be excluded at the GM's discretion from the default setting (if it's even as developed as the Points of Light one).On a side note, if the Points of Light setting did get a better write up than the promo material and small notes in various 4E materials I'd like to know where to find it!</blockquote>

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