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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 4778561" data-attributes="member: 65637">I think this puts it pretty well for me.The 4e ideas have always had traction, but I think the 4e renditions of them perhaps ironically have less traction then they have before.  From what I've seen, tieflings are much more popular when I use a variant of the 2e version (Ask "Ok, so you're part demon.  How does this SHOW on your character?" instead of telling them), and dragonborn are a lot more popular when I describe them as being more dragon then man (lose the breasts and snouts, describe them more as humanoid dragons.  I've found the draconian model/artwork works a hell of a lot better then the 4e dragonborn one. <a href="http://www.epilogue.net/cgi/database/art/view.pl?id=48638" target="_blank">Draconian by Jason Engle - Fantasy art galleries at Epilogue.net - Fantasy and Sci-fi at their best</a> is a good illustration of how I picture and describe them)That said, Eladrin are rather popular, though I suspect it's because players can finally put the dwarf and elf variant glut to rest.  Or rather, Eladrin are very UNpopular, but well liked because of it, because now, to quote others, "Everything I hated about elves was removed and put into one race, so now I can like the good about elves and hate the bad in a much more convinent manner!"</blockquote>