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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dungeoneer" data-source="post: 6333610" data-attributes="member: 91777">I would be 100% okay with this. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />In fact, halflings as they are described in modern D&D are quite a bit different than how they were described in OD&D. And look at GNOMES, for gods sakes! Races do in fact change over time. They get reinvented and reimagined. In the case of Tiefling you have a moderately popular setting-specific race to start with. Then 4e came along and they were looking for exciting new races to make core, and the Tiefling got tapped as one of them. Except that the original origin for Tieflings was very Planescape-specific, so they had to reflavor it so it was a little more system agnostic. And then they put it in the PHB.Not the PHB2 or something! No, the actual PHB that most people picked up and perused even if they didn't ultimately grok 4e. Tieflings are now very close to being a core assumption of most d20 systems. And it's the recent 'core' version that has stuck, not the version from the 1994 setting. This doesn't particularly surprise me. If any pissing in cornflakes was done, it was done a long time ago and it's hardly fair to blame 5e for it now.Speaking for myself - I didn't play D&D when Planescape came out, but I became aware of Tieflings I think through the Neverwinter Nights games. Almost all the Tieflings I was ever exposed to had horns, and so it seemed pretty obvious they had a bit of Old Nick in 'em (I honestly didn't know that Tieflings could NOT have horns until this thread). When 4e came out it was obvious that they had reflavored Tieflings to be a bit more terrestrial, but the addition of massive ram horns was the only thing that really stood out as weird. I'm guessing that's most people's impressions of Tieflings at this point. And 5e seems to be very much attempting to appeal to that majority view thing.Anyway, this seems like a bit of a tempest in a teacup to be honest. They are Tieflings, for goodness sakes. Do with them what you will. I just want to know if 5e Dragonborn will have boobs.</blockquote>

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