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<blockquote data-quote="Clavis" data-source="post: 3953020" data-attributes="member: 31898">Earlier than that. Goth was originally just a form of Punk. Siouxsie and the Banshees were the direct precursors of Goth (although they never like being called &quot;Goth&quot;). Siouxsie Sioux (the woman Madonna stole her early look from) was hanging out the Sex Pistols in 76, and was part of the original London punk movement that got started after the Ramones toured Britain. The original drummer for Siouxsie and the Banshees was none other than Sid Vicious. Joy Division got started after the Sex Pistols played Manchester, but they never considered themselves punk or Goth. After Siouxie and Joy Division there where bands like 45 Grave ('79), and then Bauhaus. The Cure were never a &quot;Goth&quot; band, but were closely associated with Siouxsie and the Banshees (Rob Smith plays guitar on one Siouxie album). The Cult, however, was originally a Goth band (Southern Death Cult)Authentic &quot;Goth&quot; died out a long time ago. What passes for it now is really Industrial, dark Metal, or whiny Emo, and bears little to no resemblance to the music of bands like Christian Death.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Clavis, post: 3953020, member: 31898"] Earlier than that. Goth was originally just a form of Punk. Siouxsie and the Banshees were the direct precursors of Goth (although they never like being called "Goth"). Siouxsie Sioux (the woman Madonna stole her early look from) was hanging out the Sex Pistols in 76, and was part of the original London punk movement that got started after the Ramones toured Britain. The original drummer for Siouxsie and the Banshees was none other than Sid Vicious. Joy Division got started after the Sex Pistols played Manchester, but they never considered themselves punk or Goth. After Siouxie and Joy Division there where bands like 45 Grave ('79), and then Bauhaus. The Cure were never a "Goth" band, but were closely associated with Siouxsie and the Banshees (Rob Smith plays guitar on one Siouxie album). The Cult, however, [I]was[/I] originally a Goth band (Southern Death Cult) Authentic "Goth" died out a long time ago. What passes for it now is really Industrial, dark Metal, or whiny Emo, and bears little to no resemblance to the music of bands like Christian Death. [/QUOTE]

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