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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 3932644" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>IMHO these tieflings are almost carbon copies of the tieflings found in the Dawnforge campaign setting. It's almost the exact same background. I would also note that Dawnforge used racial talents that were gained throughout a characters lifetime to facilitate mixing more powerful starting races (minotaur, ogre, yuan-ti, drow) with less powerful (gnomes, humans, orcs).</p><p></p><p>As far as Elric and Melnibonians go, I think the parallels are there, but again IMHO, the Melniboneans are made much more interesting due to their connection with Chaos as opposed to EVIL. They are not an evil people, just amoral. They do what they desire, when they desire it and with the only consideration being to achieve their own desires. The interesting thing is that they are not a people subsumed or even regulated to servants by chaos, (ancient traditions and customs are followed by the Melniboneans) and the stories have ample examples of those who are "servants" to chaos and they are usually degenerates, mutants, insane etc. (just look at Pan Tang or Gaynor the Damned for an example of people who serve chaos rather than bargain and command it).</p><p></p><p> In my mind those Melniboneans who are sorcerers are more akin to equals with Chaos, more bargaining or commanding through pacts with these powers (as they seem apt to do with any power that can serve them). Some may consider this evil, but when looked at with more consideration, this attitude, when applied properly can lead to good as well. Chaos is also creativity, rebellion, luck, etc. It is this aspect that lends a more complex tapestry to their background, and makes the conflict between Law and Chaos much more interesting to me than Good vs. Evil.</p><p></p><p>Side Note: The 5th ed. and Elric roleplaying games do portray magic in a much different light than the sagas do (1st through 4th ed. & the Mongoose version to an extent portray magic in a way that is much closer to the actual source material.). In the beginning of the stories Elric, the greatest sorcerer and emperor of the Melnibonean people doesn't have a demon weapon and spends much more time in melee combat than casting spells.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 3932644, member: 48965"] IMHO these tieflings are almost carbon copies of the tieflings found in the Dawnforge campaign setting. It's almost the exact same background. I would also note that Dawnforge used racial talents that were gained throughout a characters lifetime to facilitate mixing more powerful starting races (minotaur, ogre, yuan-ti, drow) with less powerful (gnomes, humans, orcs). As far as Elric and Melnibonians go, I think the parallels are there, but again IMHO, the Melniboneans are made much more interesting due to their connection with Chaos as opposed to EVIL. They are not an evil people, just amoral. They do what they desire, when they desire it and with the only consideration being to achieve their own desires. The interesting thing is that they are not a people subsumed or even regulated to servants by chaos, (ancient traditions and customs are followed by the Melniboneans) and the stories have ample examples of those who are "servants" to chaos and they are usually degenerates, mutants, insane etc. (just look at Pan Tang or Gaynor the Damned for an example of people who serve chaos rather than bargain and command it). In my mind those Melniboneans who are sorcerers are more akin to equals with Chaos, more bargaining or commanding through pacts with these powers (as they seem apt to do with any power that can serve them). Some may consider this evil, but when looked at with more consideration, this attitude, when applied properly can lead to good as well. Chaos is also creativity, rebellion, luck, etc. It is this aspect that lends a more complex tapestry to their background, and makes the conflict between Law and Chaos much more interesting to me than Good vs. Evil. Side Note: The 5th ed. and Elric roleplaying games do portray magic in a much different light than the sagas do (1st through 4th ed. & the Mongoose version to an extent portray magic in a way that is much closer to the actual source material.). In the beginning of the stories Elric, the greatest sorcerer and emperor of the Melnibonean people doesn't have a demon weapon and spends much more time in melee combat than casting spells. [/QUOTE]
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