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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mark Hope" data-source="post: 3934701" data-attributes="member: 27051">Agreed.  The timeline is not so much a line as it is a bowl of insane spaghetti that keeps trying to escape and forge an independent spaghetti republic over on the sideboard...  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> The Wiki account is wrong in a few areas, by the way.  The early Melnibonéans didn't live in two cities.  They lived in one: H'hui'shan.  During the civil war, H'hui'shan was ruined and Imrryr eventually built over those ruins.  Those who would not submit to Chaos were not all killed.  Most were, but some escaped through the dimensions to other realms.The Wiki account also doesn't take into account the stuff that was presented in the Making of a Sorcerer graphic novel, which depicts the Melnibonéans as originally being called the Mernii, a nomadic race tied into the wandering Eldren from the Dragon in the Sword story.  This version eventually dovetails with Sadric's version of events, with Balance-oriented Mernii being seduced by Chaos.  Generally speaking, Moorcock has tended to favour the origin story presented in Dragon in the Sword, Making of a Sorcerer and Revenge of the Rose, over that presented in Sailor on the Seas of Fate (which has an unreliable narrator anyway.)  The differing versions can be reconciled for those that care, but it's often not worth the effort as Moorcock's Multiverse actively embraces conflicting versions of the same tale (see note on Independent Spaghetti Republic above <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />...)Whichever view you take, this is spot-on.  Their allegiance with Chaos turns them from generally decent, if a bit odd, folk into rampaging-imperialists-on-dragons.(Apologies again for the rampant fanboism.  I really can't help myself!)As for the tieflings, it might make for some interesting comparisons when more information about the 4e celestial race is revealed.  In the context of Melniboné, these two races might share a similar origin, with one branch being seduced by Chaos, and the other going all Celestial.  Interested to see how that turns out...</blockquote>

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