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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dingo333" data-source="post: 5693505" data-attributes="member: 6672910">Here is how I have seen them played and gone through in theoryTier 1DruidWizardTier 2SorcererSummonerClericOracleTier 3InquisitorMagusWitchAlchemistBardTier 4FighterBarbarianPaladinRangerRougeTier 5CavalierGunslingerMonkThe cleric and orcle are in tier 2 because, to me, a character who only buffs/heals is not all that interesting. They are still strong characters but the focus of their abilities detracts from their overall fun.Tier 3 is full of guys who are mild to medium combat with spells to enhance and make up for the medium BAB. Witch is the exception as they are a full caster, they are a powerful option but not my bag in their style.Tier 4 is still good, they are the tanks. There are fun ideas to be had with them all, but the averageness of their abilities knocks them down from Tier 4.Consider how different a fighter with a 2 handed weapon is from another fighter with a 2 handed weaponTier 5 is the bad ones, cavalier is someone who has a strict code to follow and does not get much for following it. Gunslinger imo is just bad. It is slightly op, but the concept is terrible. The monk (with exception to the drunken master and zen archer archtypes) is another bad option, the 2 archtypes help but the overall class is still down hereThere are archtypes that will move a class up or down, these are simply just the average considering all archtypes available. Race also has an effect on the over all power of a class, for example, a Zen archer Dwarf gets into tier 3 while a zen archer elf finds itself in tier 4</blockquote>

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