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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5693512" data-attributes="member: 35909">I guess if that's all they did, this would be true.Rogue is a tank?!I agree Gunslinger is overpowered and a stupid concept.&nbsp; Tier lists rank power, not how much you like the class, though.&nbsp; Drunken Master isn't enough to move monk a tier.&nbsp; Zen Archer might be, but just barely.Elf is a terrible, horrible choice for Zen Archer.&nbsp; The proficiencies are wasted, the con hurts, the int and dex do very little to help, the elven magic does squat...&nbsp; Dwarf is the optimal core choice (Oread is probably the best non-core and Human is decent as always).&nbsp; Even so, Dwarf Zen Archer is not much better than core monk, maybe a tier higher.&nbsp; It's still inferior to Ranger and a hell of a lot more boring.&nbsp; Rangers have spells, and a pet, and are skill monkeys.&nbsp; Zen Archers...do respectable barrages of damage round after round, and can sneak alright.&nbsp; I played one, it was playable and could do its job, but was boring as hell and still clearly inferior to most other classes/archetypes that weren't monks.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5693512, member: 35909"] I guess if that's all they did, this would be true. Rogue is a tank?! I agree Gunslinger is overpowered and a stupid concept. Tier lists rank power, not how much you like the class, though. Drunken Master isn't enough to move monk a tier. Zen Archer might be, but just barely. Elf is a terrible, horrible choice for Zen Archer. The proficiencies are wasted, the con hurts, the int and dex do very little to help, the elven magic does squat... Dwarf is the optimal core choice (Oread is probably the best non-core and Human is decent as always). Even so, Dwarf Zen Archer is not much better than core monk, maybe a tier higher. It's still inferior to Ranger and a hell of a lot more boring. Rangers have spells, and a pet, and are skill monkeys. Zen Archers...do respectable barrages of damage round after round, and can sneak alright. I played one, it was playable and could do its job, but was boring as hell and still clearly inferior to most other classes/archetypes that weren't monks. [/QUOTE]

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