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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5696314" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>I agreed with your list through the first 2, after that...</p><p></p><p>Any way, I just felt the need to say:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ragechemist IS a nasty archetype, but not in the way you think. It gives you an extra +2 str in return for int and will save penalties every round you're hit! Ok, you get a will save to resist, but considering will is by far the alchemist's worst save and that every failure just makes the next will save all the harder, plan to fail a lot. Then you hit 0 int eventually and go comatose, yay! You remain that way until one hour AFTER your mutagen wears off! Fun fact: There is presently no way to dismiss a mutagen early. So tack on remaining time and the hour, and you could easily be out for several hours! And then hope the party's willing to wait another hour to brew a new mutagen to repeat the process over again!</p><p></p><p>Later on it gives small boosts to nat armor in return for ALSO penalizing dex when you fail your saves!</p><p></p><p>Never never never never never ever use Ragechemist archetype! Hands down the worst (both in how weak it is mechanically and in how it utterly fails to project the invoked image by leaving you as a hospital vegetable after 7-8 rounds of combat) archetype in all of pathfinder, and theres a LOT of godawful ones, so that's really saying something!</p><p></p><p>/public service announcement</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5696314, member: 35909"] I agreed with your list through the first 2, after that... Any way, I just felt the need to say: Ragechemist IS a nasty archetype, but not in the way you think. It gives you an extra +2 str in return for int and will save penalties every round you're hit! Ok, you get a will save to resist, but considering will is by far the alchemist's worst save and that every failure just makes the next will save all the harder, plan to fail a lot. Then you hit 0 int eventually and go comatose, yay! You remain that way until one hour AFTER your mutagen wears off! Fun fact: There is presently no way to dismiss a mutagen early. So tack on remaining time and the hour, and you could easily be out for several hours! And then hope the party's willing to wait another hour to brew a new mutagen to repeat the process over again! Later on it gives small boosts to nat armor in return for ALSO penalizing dex when you fail your saves! Never never never never never ever use Ragechemist archetype! Hands down the worst (both in how weak it is mechanically and in how it utterly fails to project the invoked image by leaving you as a hospital vegetable after 7-8 rounds of combat) archetype in all of pathfinder, and theres a LOT of godawful ones, so that's really saying something! /public service announcement [/QUOTE]
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