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Message: <blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 5696779" data-attributes="member: 40166"><p>My experience comes from 3.5, not PF, but my wizards and sorcerers have not been learning Knock. At 7th level, a sorcerer has 3 2nd level spells known; I'm not wasting a slot on Knock if there's a rogue handy. Perhaps my current wizard should have Knock in her book (I blame the DM, who's been really strict with spells), but last night I could have used all four second-level spells just opening doors. Unless there's been some big change in PF that I missed (and none of those numbers changed between 3.5 and PF), 6th level is way too early to expect a wizard to start throwing around Knock.</p></blockquote><p></p>