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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fishbone" data-source="post: 5698168" data-attributes="member: 40849">I haven't seen any of the Advanced Player's Guide stuff in action. Just how good are those? I'd have to put the Summoner on the higher end as opposed to the lower end. 4 skills, 3/4 BAB, 6th level spells with some of them being moved down, like Evard's Black Tentacles at level 3, hell yeah. Summoning guys as a standard action, sometimes Augmented, they sound pretty good just off that. Throw in all the bonkers stuff you can do with an Eidolon...Inquisitor looks quite good as well. Cavalier looks like a weakened version of the 3.5 Knight, if anything. Has anybody got any experience with the APG classes?Same with the Magus. Has anybody playtested those guys? Same with the Witch. I'd love to play one. I think they get derided as Wizard lite, but those Hexes look great and the Patron spells look fun as well.</blockquote>