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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 5604172" data-attributes="member: 29252">Divine Metamagic (and similar effects) simply allow you to use the effect without the higher level slot.  Nothing overrides the original clause from <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#magicItemsandMetamagicSpells" target="_blank">Crafting Metamagic Versions of Spells</a> that states:(emphasis added)OK... so you can skip having the actual feat for the metamagic to make a scroll... but you're still paying through the nose per casting, and the save DC is basically nil due to the way save DC's for scrolls work.  So?Technically, Limited Wish can do the same thing directly, because of the way that <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/feats.htm#metamagicFeats" target="_blank">Metamagic Feats</a> are worded in the first place:(emphasis added)So when you cast Limited Wish to duplicate, say, an Enlarged, Extended, Empowered, Maximized, Intensified, Twinned, Repeating, Energy Admixtured (three or four times, with different elements), Widened Freezing Sphere, as it's still a 6th level Wizard Evocation.  And you get to use your own save DC this way.</blockquote>