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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7354315" data-attributes="member: 12731">Thank you <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Oh I do see your point. In editions past D&D would of course have gone with the "more is more" approach. Not merely reassigning the "common" uncommon materials (silver and adamantium), but to add oodles more! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Adamantium defeats DR against non-magical weapons made of adamantiumCopper-Adamantite defeats DR against +1 weapons made of adamantiumCyrite (Arcane Steel) defeats DR against +2 weapons made of adamantiumSilver defeats DR against non-magical weapons that are silveredHizagkuur defeats DR against +1 weapons that are silveredPandemonic Silver defeats DR against +2 weapons that are silveredCold Iron defeats DR against non-magical weapons made of Cold IronNephelium defeats DR against +1 weapons made of Cold IronAbyssal Bloodiron defeats DR against +2 weapons made of Cold IronExcept you can have these boons on top of the magic weapon bonus.While any given +1 is just as valuable or worthless as any other, the magic weapon bonus lets you have two of them.Having "one more than all of them" really is a massive boon. It might not actually wreck anything when applied to attack or damage rolls, but it sure does when applied to defense. That's why Sane puts all the armor and shields in its own section, to make it clear that if you give +3 full plate to optimizers they will break bounded accuracy, precisely because they will use first "all of them" bonuses, and then on top of that the +3 from the magic armor.You can still hand out +3 full plate to any other player. For instance, there are loads of new happy players that walk around with maybe AC 14. Giving them AC 17 isn't wrecking anything - heck, it's helping them, because now they sport half-decent defense and might actually survive. My point here is merely to say that +3 AC bonuses aren't inherently bad, just bad when they're the straw that breaks the camel's back.</blockquote>

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