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<blockquote data-quote="Dungeonosophy" data-source="post: 5888748" data-attributes="member: 6688049"><p>Earlier editions had various Tiers, even if the word "tier" wasn't used:</p><p> </p><p><strong><em>Classic Edition:</em></strong></p><p>Basic (Levels 1-3)</p><p>Expert (4-14) (9 = "Name-Level")</p><p>Companion (15-25)</p><p>Master (26-36)</p><p>Immortal (Immortal Levels 1-36; essentially Character Levels 37-72; with various Immortal tiers: Initiate, Temporal, Celestial, Empyreal, Eternal, Hierarch)</p><p>Old One</p><p> </p><p><strong><em>Second Edition:</em></strong></p><p>High-Level (21-40)</p><p>Divine (Divine Ranks 0 to 20, with various Divine tiers: Quasi-Deity/Hero Deity, Demigod, Lesser Deity, Intermediate Deity, Greater Deity)</p><p>Overdeity (DR 21+)</p><p> </p><p><strong><em>Third Edition:</em></strong></p><p>Base/Basic</p><p>Prestige (level varies)</p><p>Epic (21-40)</p><p>Divine (40-60)</p><p> </p><p><em><strong>Fourth Edition:</strong></em></p><p>Heroic (1-10)</p><p>Paragon (11-20) (This adjective was also used in CD&D as one of the four Paths to Immortality, and was used in 3e in the sense of "Racial Paragon" classes)</p><p>Epic (21-30)</p><p>Divine (31-40)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>Other adjectives include:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Master", "High Master", and "Grand Master" (in 2e Skills & Powers weapon mastery rules)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Legendary" for some 3e Epic-level monsters and feats</li> </ul><p>For D&D Next we have <em>Basic Themes</em> at 1st level and <em>Advanced Themes</em> at 6th level, revealing what appear to be two Tiers, even if the term "tier" is no longer used. This splits the 4e Heroic tier into Basic and Advanced.</p><p> </p><p><strong><em>Fifth Edition:</em></strong></p><p>Basic (1-5)</p><p>Advanced (6-10?)</p><p> </p><p>Might there be further 5e tiers?:</p><p> </p><p><em>Paragon (11-15)</em></p><p><em>Master (16-20)</em></p><p><em>Epic (21-25)</em></p><p><em>Legendary (26-30)</em></p><p> </p><p>This splits the 4e Paragon tier into Paragon and Master, and the 4e Epic tier into Epic and Legendary.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p>There'd be various tiers of feat selection:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Basic Themes</strong> at 1st level</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Advanced Themes</strong> at 6th level</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Paragon Themes</strong> at 11th level</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Master Themes</strong> at 16th level</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Epic Themes</strong> at 21st level</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Legendary Themes</strong> at 26th level</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Then distill the stats and re-do the character sheet for 30 more levels of Deity/Immortal-level play.</li> </ul><p>From BECMI D&D to <em>BAPMELD D&D</em>?</p><p> </p><p>ENWorlders, how do you feel about this?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dungeonosophy, post: 5888748, member: 6688049"] Earlier editions had various Tiers, even if the word "tier" wasn't used: [B][I]Classic Edition:[/I][/B] Basic (Levels 1-3) Expert (4-14) (9 = "Name-Level") Companion (15-25) Master (26-36) Immortal (Immortal Levels 1-36; essentially Character Levels 37-72; with various Immortal tiers: Initiate, Temporal, Celestial, Empyreal, Eternal, Hierarch) Old One [B][I]Second Edition:[/I][/B] High-Level (21-40) Divine (Divine Ranks 0 to 20, with various Divine tiers: Quasi-Deity/Hero Deity, Demigod, Lesser Deity, Intermediate Deity, Greater Deity) Overdeity (DR 21+) [B][I]Third Edition:[/I][/B] Base/Basic Prestige (level varies) Epic (21-40) Divine (40-60) [I][B]Fourth Edition:[/B][/I] Heroic (1-10) Paragon (11-20) (This adjective was also used in CD&D as one of the four Paths to Immortality, and was used in 3e in the sense of "Racial Paragon" classes) Epic (21-30) Divine (31-40) Other adjectives include: [LIST] [*]"Master", "High Master", and "Grand Master" (in 2e Skills & Powers weapon mastery rules) [*]"Legendary" for some 3e Epic-level monsters and feats [/LIST]For D&D Next we have [I]Basic Themes[/I] at 1st level and [I]Advanced Themes[/I] at 6th level, revealing what appear to be two Tiers, even if the term "tier" is no longer used. This splits the 4e Heroic tier into Basic and Advanced. [B][I]Fifth Edition:[/I][/B] Basic (1-5) Advanced (6-10?) Might there be further 5e tiers?: [I]Paragon (11-15)[/I] [I]Master (16-20)[/I] [I]Epic (21-25)[/I] [I]Legendary (26-30)[/I] This splits the 4e Paragon tier into Paragon and Master, and the 4e Epic tier into Epic and Legendary. There'd be various tiers of feat selection: [LIST] [*][B]Basic Themes[/B] at 1st level [*][B]Advanced Themes[/B] at 6th level [*][B]Paragon Themes[/B] at 11th level [*][B]Master Themes[/B] at 16th level [*][B]Epic Themes[/B] at 21st level [*][B]Legendary Themes[/B] at 26th level [*]Then distill the stats and re-do the character sheet for 30 more levels of Deity/Immortal-level play. [/LIST]From BECMI D&D to [I]BAPMELD D&D[/I]? ENWorlders, how do you feel about this? [/QUOTE]
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