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<blockquote data-quote="hero4hire" data-source="post: 3713679" data-attributes="member: 20711"><p>Unreliable is a <em>seriously</em> harsh flaw. Crippling almost!</p><p>What I am saying is I dont think I like the <em>applying flaws to array as a whole</em> interpretation.</p><p>I am not going to treat arrays as high ranked powers proced at 2pp/rank. Just not comfortable with it. I am going to talk to Steve about it for future rulings.</p><p></p><p>I have been toying with your build and rebuilt Fusion from scratch to try to get similiar numbers but with a little different approach. </p><p></p><p>Basically she has her <em>car form</em> and her <em>hybrid form.</em></p><p></p><p>The hybrid form can <em>grow</em>, combine that with Morph to look more like a Transformer.</p><p></p><p>Since <em>temporary</em> size changes arent subject to PL caps, no need for extra math.</p><p></p><p>I took out the innate/linked stuff. Linked is implied, as it is a Container. Innate didn't seem to be needed for the concept of an altered human.</p><p></p><p>Added Features to represent car features that dont have great game impact </p><p></p><p>Added a Strike with a Trail effect that takes a full action to represent the pain of running people over. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Had to shave some things here and there but I think it works! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>Let me know what you think and if it is okay we can start playing (Yay!!)</p><p></p><p><strong>Fusion</strong></p><p>Pl 10 150pp</p><p>--------------------------------------</p><p></p><p><strong>----------Background---------</strong></p><p></p><p>--------------------------------------</p><p></p><p><strong>----------Ability Scores---------</strong></p><p><strong>Strength:</strong> 10 (0)</p><p><strong>Dexterity:</strong> 18 (+4)</p><p><strong>Constitution:</strong> 14 (+2)</p><p><strong>Intelligence:</strong> 20 (+5)</p><p><strong>Wisdom:</strong> 14 (+2)</p><p><strong>Charisma:</strong> 18 (+4)</p><p>--------------------------------------</p><p></p><p><strong>----------Saves---------</strong></p><p><strong>Toughness:</strong> +2 (+15 vehicle/+15 hybrid/+17 growth)</p><p><strong>Fortitude:</strong> +5 (+7 vehicle/+5 hybrid/+7 growth</p><p><strong>Reflex:</strong> +10</p><p><strong>Willpower:</strong> +10</p><p>--------------------------------------</p><p></p><p><strong>----------Combat---------</strong></p><p><strong>Attack Bonus:</strong> +4 (Vehicle +3/Hybrid's Strike +10/Growth +9)</p><p><strong>Damage Bonus:</strong> Unarmed +0 (Vehicle Strike +10/Growth +14)</p><p><strong>Grapple:</strong> +4 (Vehicle +13/Hybrid +4/Growth +13)</p><p><strong>Defense Bonus:</strong> +5 (+3 flat footed)/Growth +4</p><p><strong>Initiative:</strong> +8</p><p>--------------------------------------</p><p></p><p><strong>----------Lifting Capacity---------</strong></p><p><strong>Light Load:</strong> 33/400 lbs</p><p><strong>Medium Load:</strong> 66/800 lbs</p><p><strong>Heavy Load:</strong> 100/1200 lbs</p><p><strong>Max Load:</strong> 200/2400 lbs</p><p><strong>Push/Drag:</strong> 500/6000 lbs</p><p>--------------------------------------</p><p></p><p><strong>----------Movement Rate---------</strong></p><p><strong>Base Speed:</strong> 30 ft/r / 60 ft/r / 120 ft/r</p><p><strong>Leap:</strong> 10 ft / 5 ft / 2 ft</p><p>--------------------------------------</p><p></p><p><strong>----------Skills---------</strong></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Acrobatics</strong> - 6 (+10)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Bluff</strong> - 6 (+10)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Climb</strong> - 5 (+5)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Computers</strong> - 0 (+5)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Concentration</strong> - 0 (+2)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Diplomacy</strong> - 6 (+10)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Disable Device</strong> - 0 (+5)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Disguise</strong> - 0 (+4)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Drive</strong> - 11 (+15)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Escape Artist</strong> - 0 (+4)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Gather Info</strong> - 6 (+10)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Handle Animal</strong> - 0 (+4)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Intimidate</strong> - 0 (+4)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Investigate</strong> - 0 (+5)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Medicine</strong> - 0 (+2)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Notice</strong> - 8 (+10)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Pilot</strong> - 0 (+4)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Profession: Racecar Driver</strong> - 8 (+10)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Ride</strong> - 0 (+4)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Search</strong> - 5 (+10)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Sense Motive</strong> - 8 (+10)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Sleight of Hand</strong> - 0 (+4)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Stealth</strong> - 6 (+10)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Survival</strong> - 0 (+2)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Swim</strong> - 5 (+5)</li> </ul><p>--------------------------------------</p><p></p><p><strong>----------Feats---------</strong> <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Accurate Attack:</strong> Reduce damage bonus to increase attack bonus</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>All-out Attack:</strong> Reduce defense bonus to increase attack bonus</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Attractive (2):</strong> +8 bonus Bluff & Diplomacy people affected by your looks</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Benefit (1):</strong> Wealthy Race Car Driver</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Connected:</strong> Make a Diplomacy check to call in favors or aid</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Jack-of-All-Trades:</strong> Use any skill untrained</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Defensive Attack:</strong> Reduce attack bonus to increase defense bonus</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Distract (1):</strong> Bluff or Intimidate check to daze an opponent for 1 round</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Improved Initiative (1):</strong> +4 bonus on initiative checks</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Luck (1):</strong> +1 hero point</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Move-by Action:</strong> Move both before and after a standard action</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Power Attack:</strong> Reduce attack bonus to increase damage bonus</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Skill Mastery (1):</strong> Choose 4 skills you can take 10 with</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"><strong>Well-Informed:</strong> Gather Information check when meeting someone</li> </ul><p>--------------------------------------</p><p></p><p><strong>----------Powers---------</strong></p><p><strong>Alternate Form (Car Form)</strong> {} - Power Rank 9</p><p></p><p><strong>Morph </strong> {} - Power Rank 1 </p><p></p><p><strong>Growth</strong> {} - Power Rank 4 </p><p><em>Extras:</em> Duration</p><p><em>Flaws:</em> Duration</p><p></p><p><strong>Protection</strong> {} - Power Rank 11 </p><p></p><p><strong>Speed</strong> {} - Power Rank 6 </p><p><em>Power Feats:</em> Dodge Focus, Fast Overrun, Improved Overrun, Improved Trip</p><p></p><p><strong>Super-Strength</strong> {} - Power Rank 1 </p><p></p><p><strong>Features (Car Features)</strong> {} - Power Rank 2 </p><p><em>Drawbacks:</em> No Fine Manipulation</p><p></p><p><strong>Strike</strong> {} - Power Rank 10 </p><p><em>Extras:</em> Area (Trail)</p><p><em>Flaws:</em> Action</p><p></p><p><strong>AP: Alternate Form (Mechanoid)</strong> {} - Power Rank 9 </p><p></p><p><strong>Morph</strong> {} - Power Rank 1 </p><p></p><p><strong>Growth</strong> {} - Power Rank 4 </p><p></p><p><strong>Strike</strong> {} - Power Rank 10 </p><p><em>Power Feats:</em> Accurate x3, Improved Crit x2, Mighty</p><p><em>Drawbacks:</em> Full Power</p><p></p><p><strong>Protection</strong> {} - Power Rank 13 </p><p></p><p><strong>Speed</strong> {} - Power Rank 2 </p><p></p><p><strong>Super-Strength</strong> {} - Power Rank 1 </p><p>--------------------------------------</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>----------Cost Summary---------</strong></p><p><strong>Abilities:</strong> 34</p><p><strong>Combat:</strong> 18</p><p><strong>Saves:</strong> 17</p><p><strong>Skills:</strong> 20</p><p><strong>Feats:</strong> 15</p><p><strong>Powers:</strong> 46</p><p><strong>Total Cost:</strong> 150</p><p>--------------------------------------"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hero4hire, post: 3713679, member: 20711"] Unreliable is a [I]seriously[/I] harsh flaw. Crippling almost! What I am saying is I dont think I like the [I]applying flaws to array as a whole[/I] interpretation. I am not going to treat arrays as high ranked powers proced at 2pp/rank. Just not comfortable with it. I am going to talk to Steve about it for future rulings. I have been toying with your build and rebuilt Fusion from scratch to try to get similiar numbers but with a little different approach. Basically she has her [I]car form[/I] and her [I]hybrid form.[/I] The hybrid form can [I]grow[/I], combine that with Morph to look more like a Transformer. Since [I]temporary[/I] size changes arent subject to PL caps, no need for extra math. I took out the innate/linked stuff. Linked is implied, as it is a Container. Innate didn't seem to be needed for the concept of an altered human. Added Features to represent car features that dont have great game impact Added a Strike with a Trail effect that takes a full action to represent the pain of running people over. ;) Had to shave some things here and there but I think it works! :D Let me know what you think and if it is okay we can start playing (Yay!!) [B]Fusion[/B] Pl 10 150pp -------------------------------------- [b]----------Background---------[/b] -------------------------------------- [b]----------Ability Scores---------[/b] [b]Strength:[/b] 10 (0) [b]Dexterity:[/b] 18 (+4) [b]Constitution:[/b] 14 (+2) [b]Intelligence:[/b] 20 (+5) [b]Wisdom:[/b] 14 (+2) [b]Charisma:[/b] 18 (+4) -------------------------------------- [b]----------Saves---------[/b] [b]Toughness:[/b] +2 (+15 vehicle/+15 hybrid/+17 growth) [b]Fortitude:[/b] +5 (+7 vehicle/+5 hybrid/+7 growth [b]Reflex:[/b] +10 [b]Willpower:[/b] +10 -------------------------------------- [b]----------Combat---------[/b] [b]Attack Bonus:[/b] +4 (Vehicle +3/Hybrid's Strike +10/Growth +9) [b]Damage Bonus:[/b] Unarmed +0 (Vehicle Strike +10/Growth +14) [b]Grapple:[/b] +4 (Vehicle +13/Hybrid +4/Growth +13) [b]Defense Bonus:[/b] +5 (+3 flat footed)/Growth +4 [b]Initiative:[/b] +8 -------------------------------------- [b]----------Lifting Capacity---------[/b] [b]Light Load:[/b] 33/400 lbs [b]Medium Load:[/b] 66/800 lbs [b]Heavy Load:[/b] 100/1200 lbs [b]Max Load:[/b] 200/2400 lbs [b]Push/Drag:[/b] 500/6000 lbs -------------------------------------- [b]----------Movement Rate---------[/b] [b]Base Speed:[/b] 30 ft/r / 60 ft/r / 120 ft/r [b]Leap:[/b] 10 ft / 5 ft / 2 ft -------------------------------------- [b]----------Skills---------[/b] [list][*][b]Acrobatics[/b] - 6 (+10) [*][b]Bluff[/b] - 6 (+10) [*][b]Climb[/b] - 5 (+5) [*][b]Computers[/b] - 0 (+5) [*][b]Concentration[/b] - 0 (+2) [*][b]Diplomacy[/b] - 6 (+10) [*][b]Disable Device[/b] - 0 (+5) [*][b]Disguise[/b] - 0 (+4) [*][b]Drive[/b] - 11 (+15) [*][b]Escape Artist[/b] - 0 (+4) [*][b]Gather Info[/b] - 6 (+10) [*][b]Handle Animal[/b] - 0 (+4) [*][b]Intimidate[/b] - 0 (+4) [*][b]Investigate[/b] - 0 (+5) [*][b]Medicine[/b] - 0 (+2) [*][b]Notice[/b] - 8 (+10) [*][b]Pilot[/b] - 0 (+4) [*][b]Profession: Racecar Driver[/b] - 8 (+10) [*][b]Ride[/b] - 0 (+4) [*][b]Search[/b] - 5 (+10) [*][b]Sense Motive[/b] - 8 (+10) [*][b]Sleight of Hand[/b] - 0 (+4) [*][b]Stealth[/b] - 6 (+10) [*][b]Survival[/b] - 0 (+2) [*][b]Swim[/b] - 5 (+5) [/list] -------------------------------------- [b]----------Feats---------[/b][list][*][b]Accurate Attack:[/b] Reduce damage bonus to increase attack bonus [*][b]All-out Attack:[/b] Reduce defense bonus to increase attack bonus [*][b]Attractive (2):[/b] +8 bonus Bluff & Diplomacy people affected by your looks [*][b]Benefit (1):[/b] Wealthy Race Car Driver [*][b]Connected:[/b] Make a Diplomacy check to call in favors or aid [*][b]Jack-of-All-Trades:[/b] Use any skill untrained [*][b]Defensive Attack:[/b] Reduce attack bonus to increase defense bonus [*][b]Distract (1):[/b] Bluff or Intimidate check to daze an opponent for 1 round [*][b]Improved Initiative (1):[/b] +4 bonus on initiative checks [*][b]Luck (1):[/b] +1 hero point [*][b]Move-by Action:[/b] Move both before and after a standard action [*][b]Power Attack:[/b] Reduce attack bonus to increase damage bonus [*][b]Skill Mastery (1):[/b] Choose 4 skills you can take 10 with [*][b]Well-Informed:[/b] Gather Information check when meeting someone [/list]-------------------------------------- [b]----------Powers---------[/b] [b]Alternate Form (Car Form)[/b] {} - Power Rank 9 [b]Morph [/b] {} - Power Rank 1 [b]Growth[/b] {} - Power Rank 4 [i]Extras:[/i] Duration [i]Flaws:[/i] Duration [b]Protection[/b] {} - Power Rank 11 [b]Speed[/b] {} - Power Rank 6 [i]Power Feats:[/i] Dodge Focus, Fast Overrun, Improved Overrun, Improved Trip [b]Super-Strength[/b] {} - Power Rank 1 [b]Features (Car Features)[/b] {} - Power Rank 2 [i]Drawbacks:[/i] No Fine Manipulation [b]Strike[/b] {} - Power Rank 10 [i]Extras:[/i] Area (Trail) [i]Flaws:[/i] Action [b]AP: Alternate Form (Mechanoid)[/b] {} - Power Rank 9 [b]Morph[/b] {} - Power Rank 1 [b]Growth[/b] {} - Power Rank 4 [b]Strike[/b] {} - Power Rank 10 [i]Power Feats:[/i] Accurate x3, Improved Crit x2, Mighty [i]Drawbacks:[/i] Full Power [b]Protection[/b] {} - Power Rank 13 [b]Speed[/b] {} - Power Rank 2 [b]Super-Strength[/b] {} - Power Rank 1 -------------------------------------- [b]----------Cost Summary---------[/b] [b]Abilities:[/b] 34 [b]Combat:[/b] 18 [b]Saves:[/b] 17 [b]Skills:[/b] 20 [b]Feats:[/b] 15 [b]Powers:[/b] 46 [b]Total Cost:[/b] 150 --------------------------------------" [/QUOTE]
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