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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6423201" data-attributes="member: 4937">Again, I disagree with this ruling.  Neither the blade barrier nor the wall of force fill up whole 5' squares.   They can be imagined as lines of string laid across the battle mat.If D&D was a skirmisher miniatures game, it might be reasonable to rule that a medium-sized character takes up a full square 5' to the side, and that you could construct the lines such that a medium-sized character was constrained to remain touching the string that represents the vertical wall of blades, and so was continually 'passing through it'.   Note however first that the writer of the spell doesn't include this possibility in his language.  There is no provision for a character to remain in continual contact with the blades.   After the first round, you are on one side or with other, and you only are in contact if you try to pass through to the other side.   So if you want to hold fast to what is written, the interpretation of continuous contact isn't provided for in the rules.And if you want to interpret the situation on the basis of what the abstraction of the rules stands for, you still don't come to the conclusion you wish to uphold because medium sized creatures even according to the rules don't have to fill and take up 5' x 5' spaces.   Creatures can balance on narrower surfaces and squeeze through smaller gaps than is provided by the 5' x 5' square, and it be both quite legally supported and quite logical within the shared imaginary space.  If you lay your strings down across the battle map to represent the walls of force and the wall of blades, you find yourself having to space the walls of force about 5' apart because otherwise they risk being penetrated by a portion of an object at the time of casting.   When the wall of blades comes into effect, regardless of how you place the strings, there is always a gap into which the medium sized character can squeeze on one side of the wall of blades or the other such that he is not in continual contact.To achieve the situation you describe from your ruling IMO requires a much higher expenditure of resources or a much more unusual and difficult to arrange situation - for example, the characters are already squeezed into a small space by necessity (a 1' wide corridor) or choice (a row of soldiers standing at attention), or the walls of the room can move and push the players into a small space.No, but it has enough unique features that I think it should be.</blockquote>

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