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Message: <blockquote data-quote="maddman75" data-source="post: 1175826" data-attributes="member: 2673">Ah, good.  We were about due for a 'my hat of 5.3 know no limit' thread.  And since my hat of 5.3 know no limit, I'll put my $.02 in.I have noticed the quality going downhill.  Not that it has ever been stellar on the supplement side.  I mean the core 3.0 was great - totally revitalized the industry in general and my gaming in paticular.  After that we had the splatbooks.  Sword and Fist was pretty bad, there are serious problems with that book.  Errata did fix most of them, though not all.  For instance you can't errata out the how-to-be-a-munchkin chapter.After that they got better and better, with Masters of the Wild being really pretty good.  Oriental Adventures I'd like to have, and the Manual of the Planes was well done.  Psionics handbook had some issues with the psion, but the psychic warrior rocks on toast.After this time (which is about when the big names started leaving WotC in droves) things IMO started to go downhill.  ELH tried to handle epic characters by giving them a zillion hit points and putting 'improved' in front of every feat.  Deities and Demigods spent a ton of time on statblocks for deities, which unless you are interested in ELH type nonsense is a waste of space.  Dragon ceases to be remotely interesting, mostly a huge ad for whatever book WotC was trying to sell.  The last Wizards book I had any interest in was the Book of Vile Darkness, and mostly then because Monte wrote it.Now we get to the revision.  It's early, but there's some places where the rules need fixed.  Haste and Harm had problems, as did disintegrate (IMO).  There was a ton of errata that needed to go into the books.  Something had to be done with the Ranger.  That's what we were told.  It is NOT what we got.  Sure, they did those things, but they also ruined the paladin's mount, messed up the base sizes, changed rules to promote their minis game, changed around the weapon size rules, and made seemingly random changes to every other spell in the book.  These days I look to the d20 companies, or other games entirely.  Just recently I looked at WotC's upcoming releases and realized I wasn't remotely interested in anything they had to offer.  It saddens me that most d20 companies seem to be going along with the revision.And I don't hate WotC for wanting to make money.  I was into the revision until I read the SRD.  They just aren't offering what I as a gaming customer am looking for.</blockquote>

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