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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tsyr" data-source="post: 1175945" data-attributes="member: 354">Ok, first off, a lot of people agree with my assessment too. How does this change matters?Hell, I know people who LIKE 3.5 who conceed its really just erata and  bit of spit-shine.Ok, first... Of COURSE the designers at WotC agree with you! It's their paycheck you're writing when you buy the books. Of COURSE they think you should buy them.That said, you are making two (as I see them) incorrect assumptions:1) The people who wrote 3.5 had much if anything to do with the decision to make it in the first place. In truth, I have heard that 3.5 was essentialy rushed out by the higher ups.2) That because you find value in the product and since WotC felt the need to produce it, there is therefore some undeniable statement therein that your view is right and mine is wrong.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> Getting the obvious hypocricy out of the way, here is my answer:2.0 was stagnating. New products were trickling off, and there had been a long duration between the release of the last edition and 3.0. Further, innovations from other companies and game systems were starting to be noticed by people more and more, and DnD was loosing players. IMO, I feel that 3.0 was timed "right". It stepped in when there was a hole in the market that it could fill.3.5 didn't have a hole to fill, so it made one by shoving 3.0 out of the way. It consisted of little new material, only enough to make continuance to use 3.0 awkward. It is almost entierly recycled from 3.0. There is nothing core to the system in 3.5 that could not have been in a (Fairly short) erata file.I mean, of course, from a logical answer, both are money grabs. It's a capitalist system and people are out there to make money. That said, 3.0 was one that didn't feel like being spanked with a wet towel and being told its good for me. There was a product in 3.0 that I didn't own, and felt more than willing to pay the money for. There is nothing in 3.5 I don't own except for, MAYBE, 5-10 pages of minor rules changes, if you cut the fluff out.</blockquote>

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